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not another x-files podcast podcast the

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truth is in here not over there not

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another x-files baka this is somewhere

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in the skies inspired

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it's really he wants us to find him

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drop this investigation this is where it

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all started

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hey guys Ryan spread here today I'm

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sharing an exclusive crossover episode

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that I recently released to my patreon

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monthly goal so this week you get a

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sneak peek of just exactly what to

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learn more and to become a patron visit

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for this sneak peek bonus episode I sit

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down with Vanessa and Caroline of the

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not another x-files podcast podcast to

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discuss the recent x-files season 11

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ghuli in which Mulder and Scully's son

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re-emerges with dire and extraordinary

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consequences what did we all think of

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this tearjerker of an episode and how

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the hell can't Gillian Anderson be

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we also died deep into Edgar Cayce

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hypnagogic States and the truth behind

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our feelings for shipping between

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everyone's favorite FBI agents so

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without further ado here's the somewhere

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in the skies and not another x-files

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everyone this is not another x-files

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podcast podcast and this is Ryan Sprague

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from these somewhere in the skies

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podcast our podcast follows the x-files

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episode of the x-files and then we talk

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yes just so that you know who is who and

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we're really excited to be doing this

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crossover with Ryan so excited yeah yeah

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absolutely I mean I've been a fan of

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your guys show

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for a while now and as a both x-files

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there's so many of us out there but to

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someone like me so oh yeah sorry I'm so

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my show is all about talking UFOs you

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know what do people actually believe

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had a sighting and encounter an

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abduction experience it really runs the

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gamut from week to week and you know I

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could think of and what they might think

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paradigm-shifting things that could

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sociological experiment every week and I

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acting you guys so now Ryan you actually

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encounters and how it changed their

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did their family think about what they

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UFO setting like what does that mean for

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the community so it was really

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they believed happened to them and how

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there's two years of my life and it

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turned out beautifully the reception was

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great and that kind of led to my podcast

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much material to put in the book

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called the book is called somewhere in

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the skies a human approach to an alien

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phenomenon there's always a subtitle of

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course that's awesome level and and what

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comes out and we were super excited to

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the topics and so like it's just really

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fun to have somebody to I mean not that

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our other guests or not guests but our

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this crossover with so absolutely I mean

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to ask you guys you know turn the tables

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x-files were you both like hardcore fans

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online streaming I think it does DVD in

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the DVDs up here you know the DVDs are

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co-op my collection it's very precious

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like in love with mysteries and ghost

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stories and legends um

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urban or otherwise like I'm so finding a

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amazing group of characters that you

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actually cared about their struggle

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like young mind open that's like oh my

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not to mention you know Scully is

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amazing and we love shipping that was

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shippers or not oh yeah we unabashedly

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revelation oh my god is it being thrown

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in her face this season in a good way

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finally not like shying away from it

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that Chris Carter did with an online

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magazine called Digital Spy and I just

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this on the podcast because he talks

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about kind of like what the future of

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know he talks about how like he's having

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so much fun doing it again and like you

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know working with these old care I mean

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that he's created and that he's kind of

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watched grow up in a way and then he

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going to be done like when she actually

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sticking with it it's been 25 years

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like I still see a future to the x-files

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so it's like he just doesn't could he be

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more vague yeah he basically was like

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David the way I thought about okay so

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this is they asked him about you know

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is the interviewer you've said the show

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David the way I thought about the child

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William as an absence Center even when

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absent center that's interesting yeah I

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her in this new season so I I do wonder

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and will we keep watching yeah that's a

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that chemistry they didn't have that

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spark you know that David Duchovny

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Gillian had yeah in its you can't even

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describe it it's sort of this something

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that's there but it's really poignant

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they just have this chemistry that you

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can't replicate and you can't create out

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of nothing

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the season it's more like well we've

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good point I mean they took so that's so

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much time off you know in between coming

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back with the season 10 that like the

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world changed so much and to really put

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that into the show they had to they were

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sort of forced into a corner to do that

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so you know season 10 aside I think so

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far these first what is it now five

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episodes we've seen yeah yeah like

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they're doing a great job especially

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with the forehead sweat

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yes that was so much fun yeah right on

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the notes my god yeah so Ryan speaking

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of that you recently interviewed the

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actor who plays Reggie something afraid

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his name thank you

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yeah Brian Huskey yes so you know after

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the episode aired I just was like in

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stitches as I'm sure you guys were with

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his work on the episode it was just so

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good oh my god it was unbelievable to

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see him like implanted into these old

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episodes that we hold so dear to our

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hearts like my favorite part I would go

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fine on the couch yelling at the TV like

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spitting like I was watching so I

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immediately I'm not kidding you right

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after the episode I got on Twitter I

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found him and I tweeted to him I'm never

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gonna hear from him I'm like an hour

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later the dude Peart like DMS me on

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Twitter he's a I love podcasting let's

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do this oh oh my god he was so inviting

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we did it the next morning and Wow how

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much time do you have for me he's like

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whatever you need let's do it so cool

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that kind of happened with us and Dean

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Haglund - I just approached him on

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Facebook and he was like let's do it I

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know you you've interviewed Dean Haglund

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- all right so I have to okay

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story yeah confession time the only

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reason I interviewed Dean Haglund is

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because of you guys you're both

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trendsetters and I was riding your

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coattails I'm like wow this dude was

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like so accommodating and like this is

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so cool I'm gonna do a little copying

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here and I made sure I covered as long

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as there's more Dean Haglund in the

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universe I will never be upset shame

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yeah that's amazing like go and find

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that episode you guys I admit I that is

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one of yours that I haven't listened to

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you and I will have to do that same with

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you guys yeah I loved like I loved

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getting like a local perspective because

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he's kind of from where you guys are

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from right yeah he grew up in Vancouver

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right and he went to the University that

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we that I go to and where I work and

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that I write anyway

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he always has these connections with

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people like we

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me it was he lived in LA for a while so

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he he now comes back from Australia and

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gives these tours of all these old

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theatres in LA which is really cool

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because I walk by these theaters every

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day and now they're like a Men's

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Wearhouse or in Urban Outfitters and soo

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sad but he'll come and give you the

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history of these things and as like a

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movie buff and a screenwriter like

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that's a dream come true for me so next

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time he's here I'm going on a personal

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tour with him so there you go guys

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a gentleman throwing through that is

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awesome we got so lucky with this

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pandemic yeah everybody involved this

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fandom is amazing and I will say like so

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my partner has a podcast on Buffy the

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Vampire Slayer and it's harder to reach

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people in that you know universe like

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you know actors and that not fandom but

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in that show it's harder to reach them

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it's harder to get them to you know sign

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on with you to do an interview or

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whatever and they they haven't really

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done it because wow it's just been maybe

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I don't know why I do wonder you know

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the Buffy was a much later than the

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x-files I'm correcting that right I'm

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trying to think about my it started a

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few years later but then right the bulk

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of the x-files and the bulk of Buffy

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were on simultaneously and it's actually

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kind of fun because in Buffy they'll

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make comments about the x-files x-files

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doesn't really make comm that reminds me

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a lot of how in the fight the future

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movie they literally piss on an

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independent state poster when an

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independent stayed there like fawning

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over the x-files Chris Carter nope I

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don't give a crap one of my favorite

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things in fight the future I always

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pointed out like especially if I'm

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watching I'm like mm dooby doo divvied

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up that I can't do it as well as they

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can they got paid a lot to do that so

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don't worry about it and they're still

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around yeah I know

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like what

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it's crazy they only got better with age

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you say yes I agree with that they don't

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look like little girls I remember when

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that first music video came out and I

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was like wow that lead singers kind of

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cute then I realized it was a guy many

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years later so three brothers oh that's

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not really the way I swing but oh well I

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would say that was you know 15 year old

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Ryan's first you know his first

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perception of his sexuality right there

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[Laughter]

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Wow okay so that's going in the

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description so that's an excuse a

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bargain for this kidding I feel special

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that you admitted that on our part wait

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and you're the great shall we get

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started I think we should okay let's do

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it do you want to read a description

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today we are going to be talking about

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ghuli season 11 episode 5 I have a

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description for you that means we're

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halfway through sorry know when a pair

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of teenage girls attack one another each

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believing the other to be a monster

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mulder and scully find that their

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investigation could possibly lead back

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to their long-lost son William and it

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so I don't know what to start talking

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about in this episode but the whole

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ghuli thing we talked about the name

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first and then like get into that a

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little bit yes please so this is a

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episode just predicated on legends and

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what's real what's not real and the

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people's perceptions and was it last

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week that we had memory memory and this

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week it's perceptions yeah oh I'm sorry

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I forgot what to do one thing written

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and directed by James Wong the great

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long I felt that something

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was missing thankfully you said that

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that's it that was the thing yes so yeah

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so this character ghuli has a life on

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the internet like in the show or not in

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the show no they actually there is a

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[\h__\h] dotnet that's what I wanted to

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get into for that and the whole

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Slenderman connection in a moment oh oh

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oh what I didn't know you were going now

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twists and turns I only want you to see

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what I want you to see okay Vanessa nice

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reference are you ghuli I'm no I'm for

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reals you it's just that that's what she

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says yeah I lost I say this to everybody

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now and they're like excuse me you are

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you're in a CVS right now please just

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take your prescription leave okay yeah

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so there was a did you check out the

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website right yeah so I had no idea that

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they created that website first of all I

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thought that was like an actual urban

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legend like Slenderman so I think a few

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people did like a few people thought

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that it was a tweet or somebody was in

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the in the fandom oh yeah hook line is

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sinker I fell for it yeah it's so

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amazing so for those of you for those

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listeners who don't know there is a

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website called goo that's on ghuli

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dotnet and it basically has like it's

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like a modern urban legend site it has

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like drawings of this ghuli character

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and has like a whole list where people

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can write down what they've seen there

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are legit like screenshots from other

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x-files episodes in there are there

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really I didn't know so like there's

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this whole this hope this one called

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sighting in a lab which is a picture for

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more of the copper pages well I think

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you can actually can people put in their

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own I think you can submit things to it

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was hilarious and I loved it

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oh yeah oh my god that is so funny so

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people have been like really proud of

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episodes and stuff that's so good and

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there's probably like fan art on here

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too

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oh my gosh like that which is what I

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love about this is like it's so the

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x-files

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yeah because in the beginning like x1

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that internet was in its infancy yes

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when X Files X file with a pH when went

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onto the internet so like talk to other

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fans and Chris Carter trolled those

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sites and got ideas for the story so

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this is kind of one of those ripped from

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the headlines ripped from the internet

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kind of story so I love it yeah I agree

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I think it's the expose always did that

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so well of listening to their fans and

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we know you know Dean Haglund mentions

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it and even Carter that they made

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episodes directly from fan suggestions

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so that's so cool and I'm glad they're

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still doing that it's great like

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especially in these days when the

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internet so ubiquitous yeah other other

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TV shows like you know can't ignore it

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so I'm glad they started that other Navy

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shows can't ignore the Internet

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oh yeah yeah yeah you know totally I

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can't ignore it either it's like it's a

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space twentyforseven

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constantly no I'm serious like the only

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time I'm like not on the Internet I

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swear is when I'm in bed like I use it

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for work I use it to drive places it's

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speaking of that I did I have to ask you

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guys a question is it still weird for

507
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you to seem older with like a smartphone

508
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or like on the Internet god I just can't

509
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get used to it I'm a darknet I will say

510
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though like some people have been like

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you know you know he's getting old man

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and I'm like yeah of course he's aged

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but like there were a couple shots in

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this episode where he didn't look that

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much different than young Mulder yeah

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and I was like wow like I really feel

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like I'm being kind of propelled back in

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time sometimes like it's pretty cool I

519
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do love how they like just for like okay

520
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Mulder what a smolder you know really

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did age and then is really talking like

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this and it's like yeah that's what he

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would be like that's what he would be

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like so like I enjoy that yeah I like

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that they didn't try to make him to like

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you know technology forward yeah you

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think that would have been not not in

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keeping this character at all he's never

529
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been a Langley it's true so why would

530
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you suddenly make him one yeah yeah so

531
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can we talk about a little real-life

532
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connection here with the Slenderman

533
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killing yeah

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so the killings that happened in real

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life yeah oh it's creepy right it's

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creepy and sad

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yeah for sure Ryan do you know anything

538
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about this yeah so I mean I I've been

539
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,789
following this Slenderman thing for a

540
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:22,799
while I remember I was in New York and I

541
00:23:28,850 --> 00:23:26,129
was I'm primarily a playwright that's

542
00:23:31,999 --> 00:23:28,860
like where my my heart truly is and I

543
00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:32,009
was in a play Reading Festival where one

544
00:23:36,019 --> 00:23:33,750
of my horror plays was getting done and

545
00:23:37,789 --> 00:23:36,029
there was a play about the play horror

546
00:23:42,139 --> 00:23:37,799
plays it's a thing if you could believe

547
00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:42,149
it so I'm you're saying like don't stop

548
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:46,110
talking I wish you guys were in New York

549
00:23:50,659 --> 00:23:48,090
like a month couple months ago I had my

550
00:23:55,730 --> 00:23:50,669
my play about Jack the Ripper was going

551
00:23:57,799 --> 00:23:55,740
on there anyways amazing yeah I'll be

552
00:23:59,539 --> 00:23:57,809
there for the West Coast opening in

553
00:24:03,230 --> 00:23:59,549
Vancouver that's right it's gonna be

554
00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:03,240
here right continental wink wink if you

555
00:24:07,340 --> 00:24:04,710
know any theatre companies he let me

556
00:24:10,879 --> 00:24:07,350
know but yeah there was like a short

557
00:24:13,070 --> 00:24:10,889
5-minute play about this tall faceless

558
00:24:15,169 --> 00:24:13,080
man that was following these children

559
00:24:17,509 --> 00:24:15,179
around and it terrified me I had no idea

560
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,519
that this was an online urban legend I

561
00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:19,440
thought this playwright had completely

562
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:21,870
made this up in his own head so then I

563
00:24:26,180 --> 00:24:23,250
started doing all this research online

564
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:26,190
and seeing all the like kind of blurry

565
00:24:30,649 --> 00:24:28,289
photos I'm like wait a second it's like

566
00:24:33,230 --> 00:24:30,659
a real phenomenon and then the more I

567
00:24:35,419 --> 00:24:33,240
learned about creepypasta and like went

568
00:24:37,249 --> 00:24:35,429
down that rabbit hole I was like whoa

569
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:37,259
and then when they stock you mentioned

570
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:39,330
when when the the killings the actual

571
00:24:42,379 --> 00:24:41,039
killings with these young girls happen

572
00:24:44,749 --> 00:24:42,389
right then and there I'm like all right

573
00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:44,759
this is a moment in time where the

574
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:47,370
Internet you know as it has many times

575
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:50,129
before has directly impacted people and

576
00:24:55,009 --> 00:24:53,279
caused death so I mean it's terrifying

577
00:24:56,210 --> 00:24:55,019
to think about that it's terrifying to

578
00:24:59,840 --> 00:24:56,220
think about the fact that the internet

579
00:25:02,539 --> 00:24:59,850
almost like reaches out to us in those

580
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:02,549
ways like you know or the urban legends

581
00:25:05,869 --> 00:25:04,049
that are on the Internet reach out from

582
00:25:07,460 --> 00:25:05,879
the internet towards us like sometimes

583
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:07,470
there's this you know there's there's

584
00:25:12,740 --> 00:25:09,450
been an ethical discussion about this

585
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:12,750
for a while now like what is real what

586
00:25:16,999 --> 00:25:15,809
is not like our kids going to think that

587
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:17,009
some things are real that they see on

588
00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:18,450
the internet but they're not really you

589
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:19,929
know fake news

590
00:25:25,019 --> 00:25:22,690
I actually just saw a article about a

591
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,029
high school and I think it was in New

592
00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:27,039
York where they had a class on fake news

593
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:29,200
like how to spot fake news good like

594
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:32,080
what is a real source like I am so happy

595
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:34,210
to my face all the time like Wikipedia

596
00:25:40,019 --> 00:25:36,369
is okay to look at but don't you dare

597
00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:40,029
quote that yeah right so Carolyn tell us

598
00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:41,950
a little bit about these killings that

599
00:25:46,139 --> 00:25:43,809
Ryan just mentioned oh yeah well he

600
00:25:49,769 --> 00:25:46,149
pretty much got it there was - there was

601
00:25:52,919 --> 00:25:49,779
a sixteen-year-old girl and another girl

602
00:25:54,869 --> 00:25:52,929
who attacked a twelve-year-old I believe

603
00:25:59,489 --> 00:25:54,879
so yeah yeah I think all deserve her

604
00:26:02,580 --> 00:25:59,499
yeah she yeah and I just hear that the

605
00:26:04,109 --> 00:26:02,590
trial just finished did it yeah that

606
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:04,119
happened a few years ago though didn't

607
00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:07,679
it the trial finished in December yeah

608
00:26:13,950 --> 00:26:11,049
yeah I guess trials can like they can be

609
00:26:16,710 --> 00:26:13,960
kind of drawn out sometimes yeah she the

610
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:16,720
sixteen-year-old received 25 years in a

611
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:18,970
psychiatric institution well that's yeah

612
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:23,529
good honestly I mean super hard to

613
00:26:26,970 --> 00:26:25,690
believe that right and they made a

614
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:26,980
documentary about it where they

615
00:26:30,299 --> 00:26:29,049
Chronicle like the parents lives after

616
00:26:32,879 --> 00:26:30,309
this all happened and it was

617
00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:32,889
heartbreaking oh I bet you know cuz

618
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:34,990
everyone of course blames the parents

619
00:26:38,850 --> 00:26:36,730
for not being there for neglecting the

620
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:38,860
children and causing this to happen and

621
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:41,769
that's a huge can of worms we don't want

622
00:26:46,169 --> 00:26:44,110
to open right now but like no I think

623
00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:46,179
it's pretty unfair though I think it's

624
00:26:48,749 --> 00:26:47,830
pretty unfair anyway it's more

625
00:26:51,779 --> 00:26:48,759
complicated than that

626
00:26:54,659 --> 00:26:51,789
exactly exactly so this is just such a

627
00:26:57,869 --> 00:26:54,669
just a tragic thing and you know here we

628
00:26:59,129 --> 00:26:57,879
see it now entering into the x-files so

629
00:27:02,190 --> 00:26:59,139
well the expose has always been pretty

630
00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:02,200
timely with sort of the things going on

631
00:27:05,249 --> 00:27:02,860
in the world

632
00:27:07,109 --> 00:27:05,259
yeah at the time of their production do

633
00:27:11,489 --> 00:27:07,119
you want I do want to get into what

634
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:11,499
Williams like mindset was when he these

635
00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:13,450
events into motion maybe she could get

636
00:27:17,399 --> 00:27:15,039
back to that when we start talking about

637
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:17,409
him later in the toilet but yeah so the

638
00:27:23,489 --> 00:27:20,710
this episode opens up I guess on this on

639
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:23,499
the girls going to you know find each

640
00:27:27,330 --> 00:27:26,320
other and attack Ghoulie they both think

641
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:27,340
they're looking for googly we don't know

642
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:28,320
what they're doing at the time which is

643
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:31,450
x-files cold opens are like the best

644
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:32,930
cold opens I've ever

645
00:27:37,330 --> 00:27:35,330
and every other TV show that want like

646
00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:37,340
should take a note from their playbook

647
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:39,620
think they're cold opens are so good I

648
00:27:42,490 --> 00:27:41,570
think a lot of TV shows have tried yeah

649
00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:42,500
yeah

650
00:27:50,740 --> 00:27:47,630
keep trying it's okay because it just

651
00:27:52,390 --> 00:27:50,750
opens up in a creepy location to people

652
00:27:53,950 --> 00:27:52,400
you don't know either day they're doing

653
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:53,960
something totally out of the ordinary

654
00:27:57,820 --> 00:27:56,690
like how do you not like want to just

655
00:28:00,820 --> 00:27:57,830
watch the whole show after that

656
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:00,830
seriously like I can't Ryan you've done

657
00:28:03,610 --> 00:28:02,330
screenwriting is that right as well as

658
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:03,620
playwriting hmm

659
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:05,450
what do you feel about that technique

660
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:08,570
yeah so I mean this one was a little I

661
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:10,970
will admit a little different from a lot

662
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:13,610
of x-files in terms of like the

663
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,480
cold-open

664
00:28:18,220 --> 00:28:16,880
has very little to do what plays out

665
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:18,230
with the rest of the episode which is

666
00:28:23,890 --> 00:28:21,200
kind of rare for x-files usually the

667
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,900
cold-open is like are thrust into the

668
00:28:28,860 --> 00:28:26,000
world of what we're going to now see yes

669
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:28,870
it tied into it a lot intrinsically but

670
00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:31,760
ghuli the actual monster as I'm sure

671
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:34,640
we'll get into really was not a big part

672
00:28:39,220 --> 00:28:37,130
of all this I thought this was gonna be

673
00:28:41,950 --> 00:28:39,230
our first monster of the week of this

674
00:28:45,730 --> 00:28:41,960
season and it kind of was kind of wasn't

675
00:28:49,570 --> 00:28:45,740
but you are correct in that the x-files

676
00:28:52,299 --> 00:28:49,580
of any other show they know how to that

677
00:28:54,250 --> 00:28:52,309
hook you know whether it's a movie a TV

678
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:54,260
show or a play like you got to get

679
00:28:58,330 --> 00:28:55,850
people within the first five minutes or

680
00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,340
they are tuning out and they're gone so

681
00:29:03,130 --> 00:29:00,559
they they knew how to do that week after

682
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:03,140
week after week and I'm you know the

683
00:29:09,220 --> 00:29:05,450
best ones in my opinion is fight the

684
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:09,230
future yeah oh my gosh that is like I

685
00:29:13,540 --> 00:29:11,330
mean if that doesn't hook you into that

686
00:29:16,330 --> 00:29:13,550
movie I don't know what would you mean

687
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:16,340
the cavemen yeah yeah yeah with the kid

688
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:18,050
I mean yeah the caveman is one thing but

689
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:23,600
they give me some sweet caveman footage

690
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:26,960
any day of the week when the kid

691
00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:29,840
actually ended up kid falls down and

692
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:31,670
then like he looks up at his eyes turned

693
00:29:36,610 --> 00:29:35,120
black and you're like yep pretty much

694
00:29:39,630 --> 00:29:36,620
yeah no that's what I mostly bet not

695
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:39,640
that I'm sorry I'm into your ear there

696
00:29:44,620 --> 00:29:42,490
poor Ryan does it mean the movie theater

697
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:44,630
oh yeah

698
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:46,640
no yeah I mean you're like I'm in the

699
00:29:51,850 --> 00:29:49,850
room with you guys this is awesome I

700
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:51,860
hope actually we've had people tell us

701
00:29:54,490 --> 00:29:53,330
that that's what it feels like when they

702
00:29:56,740 --> 00:29:54,500
listen to our podcast which is really

703
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:56,750
funny that's what a podcast is if it

704
00:30:01,990 --> 00:29:58,730
wasn't it would be broadcasting and

705
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:02,000
that's boring true broadcasting has its

706
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:04,610
own you know its own place yeah

707
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:09,890
shout-out to CBC I love them CBC shows

708
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:12,050
oh yeah NPR totally there are some CBC

709
00:30:15,070 --> 00:30:13,490
shows that they only play on the radio

710
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:15,080
and NPR shows too that they only play on

711
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:17,570
the radio that could be podcasts like

712
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:20,240
they're just yeah can listen to them

713
00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:24,890
anytime anyway what should we get into

714
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:26,870
the actual episode episode these tricked

715
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:29,120
us into having a mythology episode by

716
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:30,410
using this great cold-open

717
00:30:36,010 --> 00:30:33,530
yeah well yeah and there's been

718
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:36,020
mythology throughout almost all of these

719
00:30:42,130 --> 00:30:38,570
episodes so far I mean in this maybe

720
00:30:44,380 --> 00:30:42,140
there wasn't so much and in lost art of

721
00:30:46,510 --> 00:30:44,390
forehead sweat there wasn't a ton of

722
00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:46,520
mythology either I still don't even know

723
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:52,550
how much of that is you know they could

724
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:54,080
have put it anywhere I think in this

725
00:30:58,210 --> 00:30:56,570
season that's very true and that's the

726
00:30:59,920 --> 00:30:58,220
best thing about Darin Morgan episodes

727
00:31:02,050 --> 00:30:59,930
you know it doesn't matter just just

728
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:02,060
drop it in parachute it in wherever you

729
00:31:06,610 --> 00:31:04,090
want big ratings and a lot of

730
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:06,620
controversy and you're good to go it's

731
00:31:10,030 --> 00:31:07,910
true at the same time we've talked about

732
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:10,040
the fact that Darren Morgan

733
00:31:14,350 --> 00:31:12,050
probably knows at least Mulder and

734
00:31:16,030 --> 00:31:14,360
Scully better than anybody except for

735
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:16,040
Chris Carter oh yeah sure

736
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:17,450
so even though he doesn't really write

737
00:31:21,610 --> 00:31:19,850
mythology heavy episodes he's still like

738
00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:21,620
really knows what's up yeah say the

739
00:31:28,270 --> 00:31:23,630
Morgan brothers and yeah course mr. Wong

740
00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:28,280
yeah anyway everything so we have my

741
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:29,150
trouble three which is obviously

742
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:32,810
mythology this didn't really have well

743
00:31:39,670 --> 00:31:35,120
or it's that episode that doesn't exist

744
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:39,680
yeah like okay it's like the

745
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:49,910
hypothetical future episode yeah this

746
00:31:54,130 --> 00:31:51,650
didn't really have very much mythology

747
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:54,140
and then what was number three plus plus

748
00:31:57,340 --> 00:31:55,010
more

749
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:57,350
yeah okay so there we get a little bit

750
00:31:59,950 --> 00:31:57,890
more into the

751
00:32:04,660 --> 00:31:59,960
right the mythology of shipping I mean

752
00:32:07,150 --> 00:32:04,670
yes of course so I watched that episode

753
00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:07,160
I was back home in New York during plus

754
00:32:11,620 --> 00:32:09,020
one and I watched that episode with my

755
00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:11,630
parents and at the end of the episode

756
00:32:16,270 --> 00:32:14,600
I'm like sitting there okay I'm 33 like

757
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:16,280
I shouldn't get embarrassed when like

758
00:32:26,770 --> 00:32:19,130
sex scenes come on TV but I'm with my

759
00:32:32,830 --> 00:32:26,780
parents and I'm like that is the best

760
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:35,500
so they I wasn't allowed to watch it

761
00:32:39,130 --> 00:32:37,250
when I was younger because it was tough

762
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:39,140
carry and we've heard that from other

763
00:32:42,669 --> 00:32:41,090
people too yeah yeah yeah it was just me

764
00:32:45,310 --> 00:32:42,679
and Carolyn who you know went behind our

765
00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:45,320
parents backs yeah yeah yeah my mom

766
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:47,200
found out about later she's not happy

767
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:49,970
but when my like huge obsession with

768
00:32:54,010 --> 00:32:51,919
UFOs started they're like alright maybe

769
00:32:54,610 --> 00:32:54,020
we need somewhere for him to focus that

770
00:32:57,070 --> 00:32:54,620
energy

771
00:32:59,470 --> 00:32:57,080
let's just let's let him watch the show

772
00:33:01,690 --> 00:32:59,480
and live in this fantasy world for Lulu

773
00:33:04,570 --> 00:33:01,700
can I ask you something absolutely

774
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:04,580
okay so when I was like 13 and was

775
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:06,290
starting to watch the x-files I got

776
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:09,919
really into 311 the band he because they

777
00:33:14,350 --> 00:33:12,710
had that one album where they like it's

778
00:33:16,210 --> 00:33:14,360
like the alien on the front or whatever

779
00:33:18,010 --> 00:33:16,220
yeah yeah and like do you know what I'm

780
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:18,020
talking about yeah the the alien head

781
00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:20,090
the big yep yeah and then there's a

782
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:21,260
picture of them like in the little

783
00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:23,330
booklet because you know CDs for those

784
00:33:27,820 --> 00:33:24,980
listening who don't know what a CD is

785
00:33:29,230 --> 00:33:27,830
CDs would come with you know like CD

786
00:33:30,820 --> 00:33:29,240
albums would come with little like

787
00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:30,830
booklets of pictures and lyrics and

788
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:32,030
stuff anyway and there was a picture of

789
00:33:35,049 --> 00:33:33,200
them where they had like I make up to

790
00:33:37,210 --> 00:33:35,059
make them look like alien eyes mm-hmm

791
00:33:38,830 --> 00:33:37,220
okay I was hoping that maybe you would

792
00:33:42,190 --> 00:33:38,840
be like yeah I was totally into that oh

793
00:33:44,530 --> 00:33:42,200
god I love 311 for okay good yeah I mean

794
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:44,540
there were so many bad like that's the

795
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:46,250
other big thing what's the x-files hit

796
00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:48,710
pop culture like everyone tried to get

797
00:33:53,950 --> 00:33:50,990
on that alien train like every band was

798
00:33:56,860 --> 00:33:53,960
using like alien imagery or like

799
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:56,870
computers were now had you know aliens

800
00:34:02,110 --> 00:33:58,970
on them every commercial had UFOs in

801
00:34:04,450 --> 00:34:02,120
them it really exploded in the early 90s

802
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:04,460
when that's true x-files came around but

803
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:06,650
yeah that that album I remember it

804
00:34:13,389 --> 00:34:10,399
distinctly I owned it and I def

805
00:34:14,529 --> 00:34:13,399
jump on my wall yeah because I went

806
00:34:16,180 --> 00:34:14,539
through I mean I still find it

807
00:34:18,099 --> 00:34:16,190
fascinating but I went through a phase

808
00:34:19,569 --> 00:34:18,109
where I was really fascinated with UFOs

809
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:19,579
and so that was about the same time that

810
00:34:24,129 --> 00:34:21,649
I was watching x-files and stuff so yeah

811
00:34:26,649 --> 00:34:24,139
yeah it's funny how those things run in

812
00:34:28,169 --> 00:34:26,659
tandem and it's yet to leave my life so

813
00:34:31,180 --> 00:34:28,179
I don't see that happening anytime soon

814
00:34:33,309 --> 00:34:31,190
so that would be your x-files story is

815
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:33,319
that you were into UFOs and your parents

816
00:34:37,899 --> 00:34:34,730
then let you watch the x-files

817
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:37,909
yes so well I I had okay so another

818
00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:40,879
another confessional time I had a UFO

819
00:34:45,819 --> 00:34:44,179
sighting when I was 12 I was 12 years it

820
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:45,829
right I was actually I actually had a

821
00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:47,599
note to ask you about that is this a

822
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:48,889
good time to talk about that Vanessa

823
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:51,440
sure yes since we're talking about like

824
00:34:54,789 --> 00:34:52,970
we're talking about ghuli we're talking

825
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:54,799
about like what we've seen and what we

826
00:34:57,069 --> 00:34:56,450
people want us to see I would love to

827
00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:57,079
hear this story

828
00:34:59,920 --> 00:34:58,970
sure yeah yes long as you guys are cool

829
00:35:04,529 --> 00:34:59,930
with it I don't want to get too

830
00:35:09,579 --> 00:35:06,910
you know what that's true what this is

831
00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:09,589
the perfect podcast for that thank you

832
00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:15,010
we're giving each other high-fives over

833
00:35:20,319 --> 00:35:17,599
the table so yeah when I was 12 years

834
00:35:22,569 --> 00:35:20,329
old I had a UFO sighting in upstate New

835
00:35:24,220 --> 00:35:22,579
York over a body of water it was a

836
00:35:27,490 --> 00:35:24,230
triangular formation

837
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:27,500
I did not see like a craft like

838
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:30,170
machinery but it was like distinctly

839
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:31,609
three white lights in a triangular

840
00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:33,170
formation and I couldn't see anything

841
00:35:39,339 --> 00:35:35,660
behind it like Stars or the moon or

842
00:35:42,609 --> 00:35:39,349
anything so I was terrified it made no

843
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:42,619
noise and I start screaming for my dad

844
00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:43,970
to come out and look at this thing and

845
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:46,220
he actually does he runs out and he sees

846
00:35:50,109 --> 00:35:48,079
the tail end of it as it's going over

847
00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:50,119
the water and heading towards the the

848
00:35:54,609 --> 00:35:53,329
Canadian border actually and even the

849
00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:54,619
aliens are like now we're not gonna stay

850
00:35:59,620 --> 00:35:56,569
down in that we're coming to Canada

851
00:36:05,049 --> 00:35:59,630
let's go to Canada let's go get some

852
00:36:07,210 --> 00:36:05,059
free health care Wow so your dad sought

853
00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:07,220
to yeah so we saw the tail end of it and

854
00:36:10,779 --> 00:36:08,270
he was like oh it's just a plane

855
00:36:13,059 --> 00:36:10,789
whatever but I like I'd seen this thing

856
00:36:16,450 --> 00:36:13,069
directly over my head and it was silent

857
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:16,460
it made no noise it like I never know

858
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:18,400
how to describe this but it like

859
00:36:23,970 --> 00:36:21,650
vibrated my body whatever the hell that

860
00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:23,980
means I could feel like my

861
00:36:29,010 --> 00:36:26,380
organs like just shaking it and maybe I

862
00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:29,020
was like just adrenaline or whatever but

863
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:31,030
it like whatever that thing was it was

864
00:36:36,810 --> 00:36:34,510
like physiologically affecting me so wow

865
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:36,820
I don't know I I still don't know what

866
00:36:40,140 --> 00:36:38,410
to make of it I have no idea what it was

867
00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:40,150
maybe it was a plane maybe it was like

868
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:42,340
some top-secret saying I don't know but

869
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:44,710
it definitely like sent me on a path to

870
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:47,770
take out books on UFOs and like enquire

871
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:49,300
with people if they'd ever seen anything

872
00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:52,450
it was 12 at the time so I'm like going

873
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:54,609
around like I'm working for the the

874
00:36:57,660 --> 00:36:56,890
newspaper and like what did you see what

875
00:37:01,050 --> 00:36:57,670
did you see

876
00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:01,060
and then the x-files happened and I was

877
00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:03,190
like I was sold as soon as I saw you

878
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:06,190
know the UFO in the opening theme I was

879
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:07,290
sold

880
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:09,730
yeah that's awesome so did you feel kind

881
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:12,609
of like a kindred connection or

882
00:37:17,130 --> 00:37:15,280
something with the women in the what is

883
00:37:18,450 --> 00:37:17,140
their group called the ones the group of

884
00:37:21,810 --> 00:37:18,460
women that are getting abducted all the

885
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:21,820
time it's on the tip my tongue oh gosh

886
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:25,690
MUFON move on yes that's an actual thing

887
00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:28,930
yeah that's the one that max Fenig right

888
00:37:34,290 --> 00:37:32,080
my cap my cap yeah max is part of my cap

889
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:34,300
which is in actual okay see Ryan knows

890
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:36,850
he knows we'll just defer to him oh I

891
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:39,250
got you on these ones as well

892
00:37:44,570 --> 00:37:41,200
the women are part of a group they're

893
00:37:45,810 --> 00:37:44,580
based off an actual group that's called

894
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:45,820
Starworks

895
00:37:51,090 --> 00:37:49,359
which is an actual group a support group

896
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:51,100
that meet and claim that they've all

897
00:37:55,050 --> 00:37:52,960
been abducted by aliens I met with these

898
00:37:57,060 --> 00:37:55,060
people I don't know if you guys have

899
00:38:02,700 --> 00:37:57,070
ever seen people of Earth that comedy

900
00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:02,710
show on TBS so Brian Huskey okay I know

901
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:04,840
heartbreak so our brains such a good

902
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:11,050
joke oh I'll send it to you we can put

903
00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:13,810
it into the show don't like to it

904
00:38:17,460 --> 00:38:15,430
somewhere so yeah it's a show about

905
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:17,470
alien abductees so they actually went

906
00:38:22,050 --> 00:38:19,750
out in like spoke to these people and

907
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:22,060
used it as research for this show so

908
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:24,730
pretty interesting which have you seen

909
00:38:27,450 --> 00:38:25,690
Dean Haglund

910
00:38:29,849 --> 00:38:27,460
the truth is out there documentary

911
00:38:31,170 --> 00:38:29,859
absolutely yep yep I still haven't seen

912
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:31,180
it and I really want to see it it's

913
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:32,890
great he actually I've been thinking

914
00:38:38,270 --> 00:38:35,520
about doing a bonus episode of it No

915
00:38:40,430 --> 00:38:38,280
Brian if you wanna do a bonus episode

916
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:40,440
you know where to find me huh yeah

917
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,450
awesome as long as it's got x-files in

918
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:44,640
it I am good anyway sorry you were

919
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:47,370
talking about the group of women back to

920
00:38:51,350 --> 00:38:49,710
the group of women no I you know i I've

921
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:51,360
met with a lot of these people and

922
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:52,890
honestly guys I don't know what to make

923
00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:54,330
of all of it like if these people are

924
00:39:00,290 --> 00:38:57,060
actually experiencing alien abductions

925
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,300
but they firmly believe they are and you

926
00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:02,640
know what the way I look at it in any of

927
00:39:07,130 --> 00:39:04,830
like this stuff that the x-files covers

928
00:39:09,470 --> 00:39:07,140
or that I cover in real life I wasn't

929
00:39:11,210 --> 00:39:09,480
there I wasn't there when it happened so

930
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:11,220
I'm not gonna tell them that it didn't

931
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:13,680
happen I'm just gonna you know relay

932
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:16,170
their stories the best I can and try to

933
00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:17,910
make some sense out of it so that's kind

934
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:20,220
of where I stand on all of this the

935
00:39:25,370 --> 00:39:23,040
esoteric the paranormal the the you

936
00:39:27,170 --> 00:39:25,380
falah jekyll and that goes for the show

937
00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:27,180
as well I just say that was my like

938
00:39:31,340 --> 00:39:29,190
favorite thing about like your your your

939
00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:31,350
book and your show is you just it's not

940
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:34,020
about like it is kind of is about what

941
00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:35,910
happened but it's more about like the

942
00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:37,470
person who had happened to and how it

943
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:39,300
affected them because at the end of the

944
00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:40,770
day that's the most important part I

945
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:42,750
think so I think so and I think it says

946
00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:45,510
a lot about us as humans and sort of you

947
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:47,550
know maybe they're looking for aliens or

948
00:39:52,490 --> 00:39:49,890
UFOs but I always sort of envision it as

949
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:52,500
putting a mirror back on themselves like

950
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:54,450
whatever they perceive it as that says a

951
00:39:58,580 --> 00:39:56,490
lot about them as an individual some

952
00:40:02,300 --> 00:39:58,590
people take it as a religious experience

953
00:40:04,460 --> 00:40:02,310
some as a you know something completely

954
00:40:06,980 --> 00:40:04,470
different so it's interesting it's it's

955
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:06,990
it's fascinating and I and I'm so happy

956
00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:09,690
that the x-files came around and covered

957
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:14,790
these topics it made it cool like right

958
00:40:19,490 --> 00:40:18,000
and like you're never gonna know exactly

959
00:40:20,930 --> 00:40:19,500
what somebody's experience is because

960
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:20,940
you didn't live it and you're not them

961
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:23,370
so the most you can do is just give them

962
00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:24,960
like a platform and give them the space

963
00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:27,900
to you know talk about their experiences

964
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:29,790
and whatever way they they need to write

965
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:31,770
so absolutely give them a voice and

966
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:33,510
that's sometimes that's all the closure

967
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:35,040
these people need for whatever they're

968
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:36,480
dealing with just didn't get it

969
00:40:43,070 --> 00:40:40,200
out there you know so yeah anyways Wow I

970
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:43,080
feel like I have I've added to your

971
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:46,650
tangent bill by tenfold it's great we

972
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:48,210
love it we wouldn't have it any other

973
00:40:49,070 --> 00:40:48,510
way

974
00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:49,080
there's my

975
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:50,190
actually be a good time to talk about

976
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:53,850
edgar cayce because we're talking which

977
00:40:58,010 --> 00:40:55,710
i'm just gonna come out here and say

978
00:40:59,480 --> 00:40:58,020
that when i was looking him up his name

979
00:41:02,840 --> 00:40:59,490
is not spelled how you would ever think

980
00:41:06,110 --> 00:41:02,850
that it would be yeah isn't it a edgar

981
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:06,120
and then see a yce or something yeah see

982
00:41:11,690 --> 00:41:08,610
a YC yeah and I only know that's what

983
00:41:15,830 --> 00:41:11,700
they say mom likes to follow the trends

984
00:41:18,170 --> 00:41:15,840
of different new agey things and so she

985
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:18,180
I think even has did he write books did

986
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,920
you find that in your I think he might

987
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:22,800
have a couple of his books no way yeah

988
00:41:29,750 --> 00:41:25,290
Wow my mom

989
00:41:35,150 --> 00:41:29,760
sure he has yeah Corinne we all love our

990
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:35,160
moms we all love your mom

991
00:41:40,970 --> 00:41:37,730
listen to our Christmas oh my god

992
00:41:50,060 --> 00:41:40,980
however long ago that was oh my gosh

993
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:50,070
your mom in it yeah it's pretty funny

994
00:41:58,310 --> 00:41:52,650
it's pretty far back I realized in April

995
00:42:01,360 --> 00:41:58,320
it's gonna be our third a birthday I

996
00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:01,370
think we have to do a birthday episode

997
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:05,100
anyway yeah so edgar cayce very

998
00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:07,650
interesting character tell us all about

999
00:42:12,110 --> 00:42:10,200
yes i mean i mean you obviously might

1000
00:42:13,610 --> 00:42:12,120
know i actually don't know that much

1001
00:42:15,380 --> 00:42:13,620
about him I just know my mom had a

1002
00:42:17,210 --> 00:42:15,390
couple books or tapes or something good

1003
00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:17,220
have you heard about him before right

1004
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:20,790
yes yeah I mean his quotes sort of are

1005
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:23,850
all over the UFO quote-unquote community

1006
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,640
and the paranormal but I never I've

1007
00:42:31,010 --> 00:42:28,800
never really looked into his actual work

1008
00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:31,020
I've just heard these quotes been like

1009
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:32,520
ah that sounds awesome I'm gonna use

1010
00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:35,610
that for something so okay so all

1011
00:42:42,620 --> 00:42:37,710
dimensions have in this the the the pock

1012
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:42,630
he does he doesn't unfortunately I would

1013
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:46,410
listen to that so um Mulder mentions him

1014
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:49,530
because he is so he was this person who

1015
00:42:55,220 --> 00:42:52,770
lived from 1877 to 1945 he's part of

1016
00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:55,230
this the beginning of the spiritualist

1017
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:56,670
movement United States where people were

1018
00:43:01,460 --> 00:42:58,410
thinking about the afterlife and trying

1019
00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:01,470
to find answers and he was when was that

1020
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:02,940
like late 1800s

1021
00:43:10,210 --> 00:43:05,700
300 early 1900s this one it got really

1022
00:43:14,210 --> 00:43:10,220
big this one um uh people would go from

1023
00:43:16,490 --> 00:43:14,220
city to city and do seances and yeah try

1024
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:16,500
to talk to dead relatives and right um

1025
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:18,930
there's a lot of people and during this

1026
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:20,910
era who are really famous for that now

1027
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:23,940
both of whom have been shown to be

1028
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:26,640
frauds who true I don't know so much

1029
00:43:30,349 --> 00:43:28,410
about this guy though whether or not I

1030
00:43:33,020 --> 00:43:30,359
don't because let me let me tell you a

1031
00:43:34,339 --> 00:43:33,030
little more okay so he's like Mulder's

1032
00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:34,349
in the episode he got the nickname the

1033
00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:37,710
sleeping prophet apparently he would go

1034
00:43:41,420 --> 00:43:39,060
into a trance and that's where he would

1035
00:43:42,829 --> 00:43:41,430
get all his information and what he

1036
00:43:46,359 --> 00:43:42,839
would do is he wouldn't give a lot of

1037
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:46,369
prophecies about the world to come and

1038
00:43:53,150 --> 00:43:49,440
what's crazy is that a lot of them kind

1039
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:53,160
of came true what you know right let me

1040
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:54,510
tell you about a few of them yes please

1041
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:55,380
yeah

1042
00:44:01,270 --> 00:43:56,640
you see you know look I'm giving Carolyn

1043
00:44:03,859 --> 00:44:01,280
right now on my face apparently he

1044
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:03,869
prophesized the stock market crash in

1045
00:44:09,770 --> 00:44:05,970
1925 oh my god like the Great Depression

1046
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:09,780
yeah he basically foresaw I want to say

1047
00:44:14,089 --> 00:44:11,369
Black Friday but it was actually Black

1048
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:14,099
Thursday right I don't know the crash of

1049
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:16,650
the stock market in 1929 and he told a

1050
00:44:20,540 --> 00:44:18,930
26 year old physician that he would soon

1051
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:20,550
find himself and should have a great

1052
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:22,170
deal of money but he should exercise

1053
00:44:27,849 --> 00:44:24,569
caution especially in the face of

1054
00:44:31,940 --> 00:44:27,859
adverse forces that will come in 1929

1055
00:44:33,980 --> 00:44:31,950
whoa yeah so and then in march six

1056
00:44:36,859 --> 00:44:33,990
months before the stock market crashed

1057
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:36,869
he gave a warning to a stockbroker that

1058
00:44:41,780 --> 00:44:38,130
there would be a great disturbance in

1059
00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:41,790
financial circles which is like okay i'm

1060
00:44:45,890 --> 00:44:43,230
sure there are some people who have

1061
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:45,900
given those kinds of for sure you know

1062
00:44:50,450 --> 00:44:47,520
predictions or whatever and then just

1063
00:44:52,370 --> 00:44:50,460
hoped that they would be true here's the

1064
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:52,380
thing you own like we like we've talked

1065
00:44:55,609 --> 00:44:53,490
we've talked before we talked a little

1066
00:44:57,620 --> 00:44:55,619
about this a lot when we did our our

1067
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:57,630
little side tangent about the Lone

1068
00:45:03,790 --> 00:45:00,000
Gunmen yep it's easy to find patterns

1069
00:45:10,460 --> 00:45:03,800
after the fact yep also he apparently

1070
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:10,470
perceived World War two what yes in 1935

1071
00:45:15,410 --> 00:45:13,260
he warned a freight agent of

1072
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:15,420
catastrophic events they were building

1073
00:45:18,860 --> 00:45:16,530
an international community

1074
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,870
I'm sorry I should have I'll give you my

1075
00:45:23,780 --> 00:45:20,640
source here this is a website called

1076
00:45:25,010 --> 00:45:23,790
edgar cayce org yeah you see seven

1077
00:45:26,690 --> 00:45:25,020
prophecies that came true because

1078
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:26,700
there's still like books being published

1079
00:45:30,740 --> 00:45:28,890
yes yeah there's a whole website there's

1080
00:45:33,730 --> 00:45:30,750
a whole side over there newsletter and

1081
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:33,740
you got Cortes quarterly magazine yeah

1082
00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:37,170
yeah and you can and you also get a

1083
00:45:47,860 --> 00:45:43,980
personalized astrology chart okay things

1084
00:45:51,580 --> 00:45:47,870
coming up so I'm just saying listeners

1085
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:51,590
that's what you want for your birthday I

1086
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:54,210
want for my birthday is an astrology

1087
00:45:59,810 --> 00:45:59,010
reading so I'll just tell you some of

1088
00:46:03,410 --> 00:45:59,820
the other ones

1089
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:03,420
he also good news he I'm sorry this

1090
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:06,930
one's kind of he prophesized there would

1091
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:11,690
be a shift in polls oh that the Earth's

1092
00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:14,310
Earth's cycle would shift

1093
00:46:17,450 --> 00:46:15,870
I think the magnetic poles may catch

1094
00:46:19,010 --> 00:46:17,460
holes which stretch yeah see that's

1095
00:46:20,660 --> 00:46:19,020
interesting because the jury apparently

1096
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:20,670
is kind of I know out on that one

1097
00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:22,800
because like some people say oh if it

1098
00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:24,180
happened it would be catastrophic like

1099
00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:26,670
the world would basically like and and

1100
00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:27,780
other people are like yeah we wouldn't

1101
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:29,430
even notice it like I don't know who's

1102
00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:31,830
right yeah I've read both things well he

1103
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:33,270
said that it could have happened and

1104
00:46:38,030 --> 00:46:35,850
some people including a PBS show said

1105
00:46:40,310 --> 00:46:38,040
that it that it actually did happen I

1106
00:46:43,370 --> 00:46:40,320
mean maybe I realize that article is

1107
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:43,380
quoting yeah we have like earthquakes in

1108
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:51,710
yeah I'll just blame everything on the

1109
00:46:54,860 --> 00:46:53,430
pole shift yeah right I can't come to

1110
00:46:58,700 --> 00:46:54,870
work today did you hear the polls

1111
00:47:01,160 --> 00:46:58,710
shifted yeah sorry I can't even leave my

1112
00:47:01,790 --> 00:47:01,170
bed yeah I like that excuse somebody's

1113
00:47:05,090 --> 00:47:01,800
that one too

1114
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:05,100
also prophesized that about the Dead Sea

1115
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:08,970
Scrolls mm-hmm what is that what do you

1116
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:11,250
mean he prophesized a no prophesize he

1117
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:14,310
described the people who wrote them oh

1118
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:17,280
the Essenes who were a very little known

1119
00:47:20,510 --> 00:47:18,720
sect at that time because they hadn't

1120
00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:20,520
found the Dead Sea Scrolls yet right

1121
00:47:24,890 --> 00:47:22,380
which Dead Sea Scrolls have all those

1122
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:24,900
extra biblical texts yeah and since this

1123
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:26,970
guy was Christian he was like way in

1124
00:47:29,260 --> 00:47:28,050
that's right he was a Christian like

1125
00:47:31,420 --> 00:47:29,270
miss Mystic

1126
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:31,430
Christian mystic yeah yeah whoo I was

1127
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:33,110
like what what's the right word Oh what

1128
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:34,970
did what did Scully see in the episode

1129
00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:37,370
she says about oh he believed Atlantis

1130
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:40,030
they were really into Italy right yeah

1131
00:47:45,820 --> 00:47:42,650
my mom might have a book on that to go

1132
00:47:47,890 --> 00:47:45,830
hey I Atlantis could be a thing I

1133
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:47,900
wouldn't be surprised anyway so yeah

1134
00:47:51,850 --> 00:47:49,610
that that seems to me a little weird

1135
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:51,860
that he thought that he knew about these

1136
00:47:54,370 --> 00:47:53,210
people so he basically was like there

1137
00:47:56,140 --> 00:47:54,380
are these people who wrote these scrolls

1138
00:47:58,510 --> 00:47:56,150
and then they found them after he had

1139
00:48:00,610 --> 00:47:58,520
talked about it yeah okay wow that's

1140
00:48:03,070 --> 00:48:00,620
interesting is that's like not a that's

1141
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:03,080
clearly not a after the fact sort of

1142
00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:05,690
thing you know what I mean yeah yeah I

1143
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:07,790
mean I mean a lot of these you could

1144
00:48:11,410 --> 00:48:09,110
just like well he said something like

1145
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:11,420
this oh we could you know connect it to

1146
00:48:17,970 --> 00:48:14,090
anything that's true yeah maybe that one

1147
00:48:21,070 --> 00:48:17,980
maybe not though he also said that he

1148
00:48:24,730 --> 00:48:21,080
saw that blood would be more important

1149
00:48:27,310 --> 00:48:24,740
with using it to tell stuff about people

1150
00:48:30,310 --> 00:48:27,320
is your blood used as a diagnostic tool

1151
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:30,320
oh I didn't test people's blood for

1152
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:31,760
anything right they didn't know about

1153
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:33,650
how to look at your blood and find right

1154
00:48:36,670 --> 00:48:34,730
right right

1155
00:48:39,340 --> 00:48:36,680
he's like the fact that they look at my

1156
00:48:41,130 --> 00:48:39,350
blood and go you have low iron and be

1157
00:48:43,870 --> 00:48:41,140
like how come you ain't dead yet

1158
00:48:45,550 --> 00:48:43,880
pretty much you here's a quote the name

1159
00:48:47,050 --> 00:48:45,560
may yet arrived when one may take a drop

1160
00:48:51,610 --> 00:48:47,060
of blood and diagnose the condition of

1161
00:48:53,620 --> 00:48:51,620
any physical body Wow okay that's pretty

1162
00:48:56,170 --> 00:48:53,630
weird I didn't actually know that like

1163
00:49:00,100 --> 00:48:56,180
wow like I'm willing to believe or like

1164
00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:00,110
you know entertain the idea that this

1165
00:49:04,030 --> 00:49:02,630
that prophecies could be true or that

1166
00:49:07,870 --> 00:49:04,040
you know there's somebody who's sort of

1167
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:07,880
linked into God more closely I mean

1168
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,160
that's what Jesus is said to have been

1169
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:12,800
as you know Jay liked more closely to

1170
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:14,510
God in some way so I'm like I'm willing

1171
00:49:18,580 --> 00:49:17,210
to you know entertain that idea and then

1172
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:18,590
when you hear things like that it's like

1173
00:49:29,860 --> 00:49:23,510
hmm that's a good connection to start

1174
00:49:31,690 --> 00:49:29,870
talking about hypnagogia yeah so that's

1175
00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:31,700
this that what Scully was talking about

1176
00:49:36,370 --> 00:49:33,200
the beginning of the episode sounds like

1177
00:49:38,740 --> 00:49:36,380
sleep paralysis REM atonia did you hear

1178
00:49:39,830 --> 00:49:38,750
of hissing or buzzing did you feel an

1179
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,840
electric current

1180
00:49:43,790 --> 00:49:41,520
winnings from your body no it was

1181
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:43,800
different Mulder I mean after did the

1182
00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:46,800
initial jolt of fear I I felt compelled

1183
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:49,230
to follow the dark figure and I don't

1184
00:49:53,180 --> 00:49:50,730
know if you know anything about this I

1185
00:49:55,130 --> 00:49:53,190
do not I was gonna look it up and then I

1186
00:49:58,100 --> 00:49:55,140
didn't have a chance

1187
00:50:00,050 --> 00:49:58,110
little disclosure hey that's why you got

1188
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:00,060
me that's why I'm here yay you're out

1189
00:50:05,810 --> 00:50:03,440
your residence Scully this episode

1190
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:05,820
you're the researcher of the group I'm a

1191
00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:06,720
medical doctor

1192
00:50:10,490 --> 00:50:09,150
yes quote Scully I was gonna say I'm a

1193
00:50:12,650 --> 00:50:10,500
medical doctor I'm not a medical doctor

1194
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:12,660
but I play one on TV I play one on this

1195
00:50:20,090 --> 00:50:15,680
podcast I play a lot of things on this

1196
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:20,100
true so hypnagogia is I give you a

1197
00:50:32,420 --> 00:50:22,640
little there's a whole website called

1198
00:50:34,610 --> 00:50:32,430
hypnagogia dot-com or whatever I tell

1199
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:34,620
you about is better apparently there's

1200
00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:37,140
this thing called hypnagogic pop which

1201
00:50:42,590 --> 00:50:41,700
is like music genre yeah I have like 311

1202
00:50:45,980 --> 00:50:42,600
there you go

1203
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:45,990
oh yeah well it's also it's it's like

1204
00:50:51,410 --> 00:50:48,240
chill wave or Gulf I I don't know if you

1205
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:51,420
okay yes yeah it's nice to fall asleep

1206
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:52,890
too because it just like lulls you into

1207
00:50:56,090 --> 00:50:54,720
this I listen to that kind of thing when

1208
00:50:57,290 --> 00:50:56,100
I'm like working on a blog post or

1209
00:50:59,240 --> 00:50:57,300
something at work cuz it just gets me

1210
00:51:01,880 --> 00:50:59,250
really focused if you want to listen to

1211
00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:01,890
music that could easily double as party

1212
00:51:07,580 --> 00:51:03,870
music or going to sleep music there's

1213
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:07,590
Simpsons chillwave it's on yeah it's

1214
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:09,690
like The Simpsons The Simpsons so they

1215
00:51:14,030 --> 00:51:11,490
they take Simpsons

1216
00:51:15,650 --> 00:51:14,040
I love to sit together they take clips

1217
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:15,660
from The Simpsons and they turn into

1218
00:51:19,850 --> 00:51:17,610
music videos slash music and it is

1219
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:19,860
freaking amazing and I I need to like

1220
00:51:24,270 --> 00:51:22,110
I'll link to it in the description so

1221
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:24,280
for that because I don't remember who

1222
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:26,650
makes it but it's really that's awesome

1223
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:28,960
Wow there is everything out there there

1224
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:31,210
is everything out there okay so this is

1225
00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:33,090
just a Huffington Post article about it

1226
00:51:36,750 --> 00:51:34,990
how the state between sleep and

1227
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:36,760
wakefulness is a key to creativity blah

1228
00:51:41,220 --> 00:51:39,130
blah blah but it's telling me about all

1229
00:51:43,860 --> 00:51:41,230
these people who used to do this

1230
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:43,870
who used to who used to go into a trance

1231
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:46,710
to get ideas you're being creative like

1232
00:51:54,540 --> 00:51:50,410
yeah so like Salvador Dali apparently

1233
00:51:56,430 --> 00:51:54,550
used to take hold a key and then like go

1234
00:51:58,290 --> 00:51:56,440
to sleep and then as soon as he would

1235
00:51:59,790 --> 00:51:58,300
fall asleep he would drop the key and

1236
00:52:01,320 --> 00:51:59,800
then it would wake him up and then he he

1237
00:52:03,150 --> 00:52:01,330
would be able to retain all those ideas

1238
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:03,160
from when he was like in between sleep

1239
00:52:09,210 --> 00:52:05,650
and wakefulness not surprised that yeah

1240
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:09,220
that's that one that his yeah his

1241
00:52:14,820 --> 00:52:12,640
pictures right yes yeah um also Mary

1242
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:14,830
Shelley apparently got her idea for

1243
00:52:19,590 --> 00:52:18,160
Frankenstein by she woke up and she just

1244
00:52:20,670 --> 00:52:19,600
had and she's like you know when you

1245
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:20,680
wake up and you have a really great idea

1246
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:22,510
ya have to write it down right away I

1247
00:52:26,490 --> 00:52:26,050
love that book right so good so creepy

1248
00:52:28,770 --> 00:52:26,500
too

1249
00:52:30,060 --> 00:52:28,780
yeah yeah a very interesting

1250
00:52:31,170 --> 00:52:30,070
coming-of-age story

1251
00:52:34,770 --> 00:52:31,180
or a very different sort of

1252
00:52:38,330 --> 00:52:34,780
coming-of-age story apparently Edison

1253
00:52:40,620 --> 00:52:38,340
also did this he would take to like

1254
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:40,630
metal balls and he put them in his hand

1255
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:43,450
okay hold on to them and then when he

1256
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:45,130
fell asleep he would drop them and

1257
00:52:48,810 --> 00:52:47,170
they'd wake him up and then he would

1258
00:52:50,550 --> 00:52:48,820
because I write things down right away

1259
00:52:52,410 --> 00:52:50,560
yes that was the creative time between

1260
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:52,420
like when he was between when he was

1261
00:52:55,710 --> 00:52:53,710
awake and when he was just falling

1262
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:55,720
asleep that's when huh all those ideas

1263
00:52:59,790 --> 00:52:58,330
and those trance-like thoughts would

1264
00:53:01,760 --> 00:52:59,800
come to him I feel like this is

1265
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:01,770
something I should be doing I mean right

1266
00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:04,450
really cuz like I wake up from you know

1267
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:08,500
a night of sleeping but dreaming and I

1268
00:53:13,170 --> 00:53:10,030
know I dreamt something but I don't

1269
00:53:16,110 --> 00:53:13,180
remember it yeah I know sometimes I wake

1270
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:16,120
up and I've like had like a dream that

1271
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:17,770
it's so vivid I'm like I'm gonna write

1272
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:21,040
this down and otherwise cuz you like the

1273
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:22,210
more and more awake you get the more

1274
00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:24,610
more you lose it totally mm-hmm yeah I

1275
00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:26,590
remember I think it was Mitch Hedberg

1276
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:29,350
the late comedian who said like he would

1277
00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:31,570
you know he would fall asleep and have

1278
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:35,140
these incredible you know jokes come

1279
00:53:39,930 --> 00:53:37,359
into his head while he was asleep and

1280
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:39,940
you wake up and his first inclination

1281
00:53:45,029 --> 00:53:42,190
was to like get up and go write it down

1282
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:45,039
but he was so lazy that he would

1283
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:46,480
convince himself that the joke wasn't

1284
00:54:01,049 --> 00:53:58,079
you know this is interesting because I

1285
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:01,059
the only way I've heard of this this

1286
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:03,849
whole thing is a lot of people who claim

1287
00:54:08,609 --> 00:54:06,670
to have been abducted by aliens they say

1288
00:54:09,989 --> 00:54:08,619
that you know they were paralyzed and

1289
00:54:13,170 --> 00:54:09,999
they saw this figure in their room

1290
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:13,180
they're taken aboard a craft or you know

1291
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:15,609
communicated with some dark figure so I

1292
00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:17,920
always sounds like they're having night

1293
00:54:23,309 --> 00:54:20,710
terrors yes yes exactly you know sleep

1294
00:54:26,279 --> 00:54:23,319
paralysis or night Aaronson that's and

1295
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:26,289
or in this state this hypnagogic is that

1296
00:54:30,839 --> 00:54:29,230
how I guess yeah yeah like that's the

1297
00:54:33,660 --> 00:54:30,849
only way I ever heard of it not as like

1298
00:54:35,759 --> 00:54:33,670
a tool for artists or you know free

1299
00:54:37,349 --> 00:54:35,769
thinkers it's very fascinating to hear

1300
00:54:39,479 --> 00:54:37,359
this side of it and it's definitely a

1301
00:54:41,420 --> 00:54:39,489
thing in this episode I actually noticed

1302
00:54:44,999 --> 00:54:41,430
when I rewatched

1303
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:45,009
yesterday actually that there's a part

1304
00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:47,170
where Scully is lying in sort of the

1305
00:54:54,329 --> 00:54:52,390
waiting room yeah and she is on a couch

1306
00:54:56,759 --> 00:54:54,339
and there's like kind of like like a

1307
00:54:59,269 --> 00:54:56,769
coffee table type of table and it's

1308
00:55:02,220 --> 00:54:59,279
glass and you can see her reflection in

1309
00:55:04,729 --> 00:55:02,230
the glass but she's moving on the couch

1310
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:04,739
but the reflection isn't moving and

1311
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:06,910
actually to be honest it's somebody it

1312
00:55:09,809 --> 00:55:08,079
was somebody on tumblr who actually

1313
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:09,819
pointed that out the first time but then

1314
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:10,960
I like kind of thought about it I was

1315
00:55:14,749 --> 00:55:12,609
like okay what could this be saying like

1316
00:55:17,729 --> 00:55:14,759
is there a deeper meaning to this and

1317
00:55:21,269 --> 00:55:17,739
yeah apparently it was an intentional it

1318
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:21,279
was intentional sorry and it's if you

1319
00:55:24,359 --> 00:55:22,450
look at the picture like if you take a

1320
00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:24,369
still of it it looks like she is a

1321
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:26,529
perfect it's a perfect symmetrical

1322
00:55:33,059 --> 00:55:29,950
picture so you know it's like if you

1323
00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:33,069
were to fold that image in half like

1324
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:34,630
together it would be perfectly

1325
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:36,249
symmetrical so I thought that was really

1326
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:38,410
interesting so it was kind of like maybe

1327
00:55:41,819 --> 00:55:39,970
there wasn't really much meaning to it

1328
00:55:44,370 --> 00:55:41,829
but just sort of a nod towards this idea

1329
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:44,380
of like this this in-between state or

1330
00:55:48,569 --> 00:55:46,089
this like what is real what's a dream

1331
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:48,579
like wow so what her reflection is not

1332
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,930
moving because she's not really moving

1333
00:55:52,839 --> 00:55:51,200
she's just sleeping

1334
00:55:54,010 --> 00:55:52,849
well she's moving on the couch you can

1335
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:54,020
see her kind of like twitching in her

1336
00:55:59,170 --> 00:55:55,760
sleep right but the reflection she's not

1337
00:56:00,760 --> 00:55:59,180
moving and so I think just like an

1338
00:56:02,049 --> 00:56:00,770
intentional there's something

1339
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:02,059
intentional there hmm

1340
00:56:04,990 --> 00:56:03,410
it's not sure what it is yeah I didn't

1341
00:56:05,799 --> 00:56:05,000
catch that I watched it twice and I

1342
00:56:07,690 --> 00:56:05,809
think this is one of those episodes

1343
00:56:10,569 --> 00:56:07,700
where you have to watch it more than

1344
00:56:13,380 --> 00:56:10,579
once there is no way you can digest this

1345
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:13,390
one there's so much be below the surface

1346
00:56:19,059 --> 00:56:16,400
so much I'm like we haven't even gotten

1347
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:19,069
to some things like yeah I know

1348
00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:26,000
Wow okay anything else about no okay

1349
00:56:32,829 --> 00:56:28,250
what stop talk let's stop sleeping let's

1350
00:56:35,799 --> 00:56:32,839
start waking up very nice so Ryan yes

1351
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:35,809
tell me what you thought about William

1352
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:40,730
slash Jackson yeah okay so yeah so like

1353
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:43,520
you guys season 9 was kind of a blur to

1354
00:56:49,630 --> 00:56:46,910
me so like the entire Williams storyline

1355
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:49,640
kind of passed me by and I didn't really

1356
00:56:55,930 --> 00:56:51,950
think about it you know and then in

1357
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:55,940
season 10 we got was it what not home

1358
00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:57,680
was it home again where we got like that

1359
00:57:04,089 --> 00:57:00,319
that like fantasy life that mold or saw

1360
00:57:05,890 --> 00:57:04,099
with his son yeah but like Mulder

1361
00:57:08,170 --> 00:57:05,900
envisioned this perfect life with his

1362
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:08,180
son like playing baseball with him and

1363
00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:08,690
this and that

1364
00:57:13,089 --> 00:57:11,150
oh that's pretty cool I guess I should

1365
00:57:16,270 --> 00:57:13,099
go back and learn about William again

1366
00:57:18,460 --> 00:57:16,280
but then this season like we heard that

1367
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:18,470
William was gonna be an integral part of

1368
00:57:22,780 --> 00:57:20,930
it and we were waiting to see how they

1369
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:22,790
were gonna bring him into the x-files

1370
00:57:27,579 --> 00:57:24,170
and back into Mulder and Scully's life

1371
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:27,589
and I thought this was pretty

1372
00:57:32,829 --> 00:57:30,410
interesting and definitely not the way I

1373
00:57:34,539 --> 00:57:32,839
thought it was gonna go for sure I I

1374
00:57:37,150 --> 00:57:34,549
don't know what to make of him so first

1375
00:57:38,859 --> 00:57:37,160
we did mention these two when these two

1376
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:38,869
girls in the beginning you they end up

1377
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:40,670
you know slicing and dicing one another

1378
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:43,130
and then we find out that it's because

1379
00:57:51,460 --> 00:57:46,480
of van der Kemp is that was his

1380
00:57:53,650 --> 00:57:51,470
pseudonym Jackson camp yeah who to be

1381
00:57:54,940 --> 00:57:53,660
William he was adopted by the van der

1382
00:57:58,059 --> 00:57:54,950
camps and that's something that we found

1383
00:57:59,260 --> 00:57:58,069
out in season whenever Scully gives him

1384
00:58:04,180 --> 00:57:59,270
up for adoption isn't it like we found

1385
00:58:05,110 --> 00:58:04,190
that out well in that episode the my

1386
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:05,120
struggle 3 didn't

1387
00:58:14,140 --> 00:58:09,410
krycek come and tell her sorry bender

1388
00:58:16,030 --> 00:58:14,150
I wish crisis me too I mean they brought

1389
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:16,040
CSM back but they didn't bring krycek

1390
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:20,000
back Ryan you and I just said that at

1391
00:58:25,150 --> 00:58:22,880
the exact same time one armed wonder

1392
00:58:26,590 --> 00:58:25,160
seriously but like but I thought that

1393
00:58:28,650 --> 00:58:26,600
that was something that actually was

1394
00:58:31,210 --> 00:58:28,660
known earlier on in the series as well

1395
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:31,220
maybe Scully forgot or maybe Scully

1396
00:58:34,330 --> 00:58:32,720
never found out but somebody else did I

1397
00:58:35,740 --> 00:58:34,340
can't remember the details but yeah cuz

1398
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:35,750
when they say van der cam she's like oh

1399
00:58:41,140 --> 00:58:37,760
yeah she doesn't realize no she realizes

1400
00:58:42,550 --> 00:58:41,150
if she remembers yeah okay I go to the

1401
00:58:44,770 --> 00:58:42,560
house she's like I don't need I'm

1402
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:44,780
freaking out right now right and then

1403
00:58:47,290 --> 00:58:45,890
she gets in the car and drives and

1404
00:58:48,550 --> 00:58:47,300
that's not really he says I'm gonna feel

1405
00:58:53,740 --> 00:58:48,560
like I'm falling a flood she can't say

1406
00:58:58,660 --> 00:58:53,750
man I'm freaking out you know what to do

1407
00:59:00,220 --> 00:58:58,670
anymore I'm creepy yeah but yeah I

1408
00:59:02,620 --> 00:59:00,230
thought it was an interesting way to

1409
00:59:05,650 --> 00:59:02,630
introduce William to us but at the same

1410
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:05,660
time I was kind of really turned off by

1411
00:59:12,490 --> 00:59:07,930
the fact that this dude is like a player

1412
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:12,500
from this start watching this going okay

1413
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:14,480
look you're young you're like 17 or

1414
00:59:19,570 --> 00:59:16,910
whatever yeah and like actually I think

1415
00:59:22,510 --> 00:59:19,580
it is I think he has 17 because I think

1416
00:59:24,550 --> 00:59:22,520
he is born in the year 2000 anyway

1417
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:24,560
yeah whatever it doesn't matter and he's

1418
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:25,850
like doing this you know he's like

1419
00:59:29,170 --> 00:59:27,650
seeing the two girls and I'm like okay

1420
00:59:32,260 --> 00:59:29,180
look you're young you don't understand

1421
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:32,270
like the the greater world or whatever

1422
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:33,890
there are some people who do

1423
00:59:39,190 --> 00:59:36,770
non-monogamy not like this yeah I mean

1424
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:39,200
you do not know because he was like he's

1425
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:42,110
like Mulder's son I don't believe the

1426
00:59:46,420 --> 00:59:43,130
see a son was telling the truth

1427
00:59:49,210 --> 00:59:46,430
I don't I'm pretty sure that's not gonna

1428
00:59:50,860 --> 00:59:49,220
be actually a thing but it better be or

1429
00:59:53,260 --> 00:59:50,870
maybe that's westphall thinking on but

1430
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:53,270
yeah but anyway yeah I was like ah this

1431
00:59:58,540 --> 00:59:56,810
kids a douche and then like I started to

1432
01:00:01,240 --> 00:59:58,550
kind of reflect on like what I was like

1433
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:01,250
at 17 and I'm like you know what I did

1434
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:03,410
not see you know the forest beyond the

1435
01:00:07,390 --> 01:00:05,210
trees at that point I I wasn't thinking

1436
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:07,400
about like how this would affect the two

1437
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:09,290
girls they're like oh this would affect

1438
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:11,210
anyone I was the center of the universe

1439
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:14,330
when I was 17 right and I'm like okay if

1440
01:00:18,579 --> 01:00:16,400
I had these superpowers and I was able

1441
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:18,589
to makes people perceive things like

1442
01:00:22,930 --> 01:00:20,930
maybe that'd be fun but like the fact

1443
01:00:24,459 --> 01:00:22,940
that he did this elaborate prank on two

1444
01:00:26,499 --> 01:00:24,469
people that he supposedly cared about

1445
01:00:29,229 --> 01:00:26,509
knowing full well that something like

1446
01:00:30,459 --> 01:00:29,239
really bad could happen I don't know I

1447
01:00:32,650 --> 01:00:30,469
don't know what to make of it I don't

1448
01:00:34,569 --> 01:00:32,660
know if I care about it I don't know so

1449
01:00:36,609 --> 01:00:34,579
wait are you saying that I'm not the

1450
01:00:40,359 --> 01:00:36,619
center of the universe I mean I would

1451
01:00:44,589 --> 01:00:40,369
take that back oh wait but I'm the

1452
01:00:50,259 --> 01:00:44,599
center you know I am teenager cafes

1453
01:00:51,759 --> 01:00:50,269
ladies yeah so you're so wait a minute

1454
01:00:53,380 --> 01:00:51,769
let me let me you wrap up everything

1455
01:00:57,630 --> 01:00:53,390
you're saying right you're saying hey

1456
01:00:59,979 --> 01:00:57,640
them wouldn't want to date him exactly

1457
01:01:01,150 --> 01:00:59,989
like he does say later when he needs

1458
01:01:03,009 --> 01:01:01,160
somebody's like oh I never meant for you

1459
01:01:06,969 --> 01:01:03,019
guys just stab each other but you're

1460
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:06,979
like dude I mean yeah he's like you're

1461
01:01:11,289 --> 01:01:08,569
gonna you're gonna go see a monster like

1462
01:01:13,809 --> 01:01:11,299
you know arm yourself even not like

1463
01:01:15,819 --> 01:01:13,819
going on that abandoned chimera ship

1464
01:01:17,289 --> 01:01:15,829
like anything could happen it could have

1465
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:17,299
fallen through they could have drowned

1466
01:01:23,890 --> 01:01:19,910
like come on dude I mean that's where

1467
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:23,900
the kids go to smoke weed so which like

1468
01:01:27,759 --> 01:01:25,729
is not probably very far from the truth

1469
01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:27,769
like kids do stupid things like go into

1470
01:01:41,489 --> 01:01:38,589
yeah but do you mean talk about the fact

1471
01:01:44,229 --> 01:01:41,499
that the ship is called chimera yeah

1472
01:01:48,609 --> 01:01:44,239
yeah you wanna you wanna helm this

1473
01:02:00,940 --> 01:01:48,619
conversation helm this conversation good

1474
01:02:03,759 --> 01:02:00,950
job it's sink or swim now so yeah this

1475
01:02:05,410 --> 01:02:03,769
um this was pretty cool the ship was

1476
01:02:08,829 --> 01:02:05,420
called chimera which was a reference to

1477
01:02:09,729 --> 01:02:08,839
a season 7 episode of that name which

1478
01:02:12,309 --> 01:02:09,739
was hmm

1479
01:02:14,229 --> 01:02:12,319
from what I'm trying to remember I don't

1480
01:02:16,180 --> 01:02:14,239
remember the episode that clearly but it

1481
01:02:19,089 --> 01:02:16,190
had a lot to do with I think like a

1482
01:02:21,539 --> 01:02:19,099
mother wasn't it do you guys remember at

1483
01:02:25,499 --> 01:02:21,549
all I don't know this one very well oh

1484
01:02:28,630 --> 01:02:25,509
this one oh yeah this one we have the

1485
01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:28,640
housewife or something yes and then um

1486
01:02:35,769 --> 01:02:32,569
there's it's like it's like there is a

1487
01:02:37,689 --> 01:02:35,779
by a monster they can't see and they

1488
01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:37,699
think that it's somebody who's killing

1489
01:02:43,299 --> 01:02:40,640
someone else there's a bird yeah there's

1490
01:02:45,729 --> 01:02:43,309
all the birds are dying in this one no I

1491
01:02:46,659 --> 01:02:45,739
think the birds are attacking people

1492
01:02:50,499 --> 01:02:46,669
aren't they

1493
01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:50,509
no that's the movie called the bird but

1494
01:02:55,390 --> 01:02:52,910
like wikipedia says right here

1495
01:02:57,939 --> 01:02:55,400
oh please dig up Martha's body with claw

1496
01:02:59,679 --> 01:02:57,949
marks all over her face just right yeah

1497
01:03:02,259 --> 01:02:59,689
and they think it was a raven or

1498
01:03:04,059 --> 01:03:02,269
something yeah yeah yeah so it looks

1499
01:03:07,870 --> 01:03:04,069
like I mean the episode sort of centered

1500
01:03:10,299 --> 01:03:07,880
around like white suburban existence it

1501
01:03:12,189 --> 01:03:10,309
kind of like the undertones of that

1502
01:03:13,959 --> 01:03:12,199
world which I could sort of see

1503
01:03:17,319 --> 01:03:13,969
reflecting in this episode with like the

1504
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:17,329
idea of creepypasta and these girls like

1505
01:03:21,309 --> 01:03:19,609
online and like they have nothing better

1506
01:03:24,489 --> 01:03:21,319
to do than create this fantasy world

1507
01:03:26,589 --> 01:03:24,499
around ghuli so maybe that's why they

1508
01:03:28,509 --> 01:03:26,599
chose chimeras the name of the ship I

1509
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:28,519
don't know if we're getting too deep but

1510
01:03:32,709 --> 01:03:30,890
we do know that they love making

1511
01:03:35,620 --> 01:03:32,719
references to other episodes in this

1512
01:03:37,959 --> 01:03:35,630
that's true I mean maybe it could also

1513
01:03:40,419 --> 01:03:37,969
just be a reference to the legendary

1514
01:03:41,709 --> 01:03:40,429
creature chimera yeah that type has all

1515
01:03:43,299 --> 01:03:41,719
those many different parts that are you

1516
01:03:44,499 --> 01:03:43,309
go together so the story has all these

1517
01:03:45,669 --> 01:03:44,509
different parts are kind of sewn

1518
01:03:47,649 --> 01:03:45,679
together it's like doesn't the chimera

1519
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:47,659
have like different like its its body

1520
01:03:51,219 --> 01:03:49,130
parts are from different animals yeah

1521
01:03:51,669 --> 01:03:51,229
right so that could be part of it too I

1522
01:03:53,919 --> 01:03:51,679
don't know

1523
01:03:56,019 --> 01:03:53,929
yeah yeah not sure what to read about

1524
01:03:58,149 --> 01:03:56,029
like how to read into that text it's

1525
01:04:01,870 --> 01:03:58,159
deep for sure deep like the see that the

1526
01:04:06,509 --> 01:04:01,880
chimera floats uh it was kind of a

1527
01:04:09,009 --> 01:04:06,519
shallow base so it was kind of that was

1528
01:04:12,929 --> 01:04:09,019
yeah probably yeah I did a lot of north

1529
01:04:15,189 --> 01:04:12,939
fan filming oh the waves the waves where

1530
01:04:20,349 --> 01:04:15,199
Mulder keeps getting called Bob which we

1531
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:20,359
should talk about briefly that's a sorry

1532
01:04:27,609 --> 01:04:22,880
that coffee shop is a waves in North

1533
01:04:29,229 --> 01:04:27,619
Vancouver it's an actual place it is

1534
01:04:31,539 --> 01:04:29,239
yeah I mean they didn't say the name of

1535
01:04:33,429 --> 01:04:31,549
the coffee shop in the show but um and

1536
01:04:37,419 --> 01:04:33,439
I'm just happen to know it was filmed in

1537
01:04:40,959 --> 01:04:37,429
a way yeah I just wanted to say that

1538
01:04:42,849 --> 01:04:40,969
that's where that was built and Jackson

1539
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:42,859
van de Kamp's house is like such a

1540
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,900
Vancouver like it Solano

1541
01:04:49,490 --> 01:04:47,520
like two million dollar house come on Oh

1542
01:04:51,829 --> 01:04:49,500
God I guess they're supposed to be in

1543
01:04:53,930 --> 01:04:51,839
Virginia I think but yeah it's

1544
01:04:55,819 --> 01:04:53,940
interesting too like when when William

1545
01:04:58,339 --> 01:04:55,829
was put up for adoption and whatnot we

1546
01:05:01,130 --> 01:04:58,349
we thought like we're gonna see a very

1547
01:05:04,430 --> 01:05:01,140
like down out of his luck sort of

1548
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:04,440
teenager super like dark and and twisted

1549
01:05:08,299 --> 01:05:06,690
and he kind of is obviously because of

1550
01:05:10,450 --> 01:05:08,309
you know what he's going through

1551
01:05:13,099 --> 01:05:10,460
but he lives with these amazing

1552
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:13,109
supportive parents who you know are

1553
01:05:17,690 --> 01:05:15,359
really taking care of him so it's

1554
01:05:21,079 --> 01:05:17,700
interesting to see you know what the

1555
01:05:23,390 --> 01:05:21,089
future kind of held for him and where he

1556
01:05:25,549 --> 01:05:23,400
is at right now in his life and you know

1557
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:25,559
that Scully are now coming into it and

1558
01:05:31,099 --> 01:05:28,410
all this is going down I I do want to

1559
01:05:36,620 --> 01:05:31,109
thoughts about that hmm first of all

1560
01:05:39,140 --> 01:05:36,630
that bedroom has planets and baseball

1561
01:05:41,210 --> 01:05:39,150
stuff yes how could that not be Mulder's

1562
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:41,220
son come on I'm not the only person who

1563
01:05:44,809 --> 01:05:42,930
has pointed this out but like I just

1564
01:05:48,349 --> 01:05:44,819
want to say it absolutely

1565
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:48,359
he's like top secret FBI or government

1566
01:05:52,039 --> 01:05:49,890
files come on

1567
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:52,049
I know the secret hidden computer

1568
01:05:59,960 --> 01:05:54,930
obviously this is all genetics you know

1569
01:06:00,829 --> 01:05:59,970
like all that stuff is no toddler no but

1570
01:06:02,019 --> 01:06:00,839
the other thing I wanted to talk about

1571
01:06:06,049 --> 01:06:02,029
was um

1572
01:06:09,769 --> 01:06:06,059
Kelly's monologue she William one of the

1573
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:09,779
more in season that has been a like cuz

1574
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:11,450
and this one in the last season to

1575
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:14,130
really delved into the I like motherhood

1576
01:06:17,539 --> 01:06:16,770
what does it mean to be a mother all the

1577
01:06:19,370 --> 01:06:17,549
time yeah

1578
01:06:21,650 --> 01:06:19,380
like he likes talking about that and so

1579
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:21,660
Scully's been steeped in that for a

1580
01:06:26,539 --> 01:06:24,510
while yeah but now she's face to face

1581
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:26,549
with her son and she doesn't even get

1582
01:06:31,579 --> 01:06:28,410
shocked him because he's cold unquote

1583
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:31,589
dead right and I I think we should play

1584
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:34,170
a clip here of the monologue I don't

1585
01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:45,820
but if you are William

1586
01:06:56,530 --> 01:06:52,690
this is what I'd say I'm sorry

1587
01:07:00,819 --> 01:06:56,540
I'm so sorry that I didn't get a chance

1588
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:00,829
to know you or you gonna chance to know

1589
01:07:14,099 --> 01:07:10,859
I gave you up for adoption not because I

1590
01:07:19,170 --> 01:07:14,109
didn't want you or because you were any

1591
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:19,180
less loved I was trying to keep you safe

1592
01:07:29,789 --> 01:07:28,000
I hope you know that and maybe maybe I

1593
01:07:34,170 --> 01:07:29,799
should have had the courage to stand by

1594
01:07:36,210 --> 01:07:34,180
you but I thought I was being strong

1595
01:07:47,359 --> 01:07:36,220
because it was the hardest thing I've

1596
01:07:53,510 --> 01:07:47,369
ever done to let go I don't know that I

1597
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:55,580
but it turns out that this is the

1598
01:07:58,010 --> 01:08:07,980
to see the oak and I failed you

1599
01:08:22,030 --> 01:08:12,819
yeah I need you to know that I never

1600
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:22,040
forgot you and I thought I felt even

1601
01:08:48,930 --> 01:08:26,239
recently that we were gonna somehow be

1602
01:08:55,749 --> 01:08:52,749
and that's so tragic because he was

1603
01:08:59,140 --> 01:08:55,759
awake and he heard everything that she

1604
01:09:00,249 --> 01:08:59,150
said and then he sees the girls in the

1605
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:00,259
hospital later and he's like oh there

1606
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:02,330
was this woman like she like talked to

1607
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:03,410
me I don't know I think she might be my

1608
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:04,370
birth mother or something like he

1609
01:09:11,079 --> 01:09:07,250
completely brushes it off and I was like

1610
01:09:12,999 --> 01:09:11,089
that is so 17 year old boy I don't know

1611
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:13,009
maybe it was probably the most important

1612
01:09:18,490 --> 01:09:15,440
moment in my life who knows yeah I mean

1613
01:09:21,970 --> 01:09:18,500
we get it later on in the episode when

1614
01:09:24,459 --> 01:09:21,980
you see him on the security camera like

1615
01:09:26,140 --> 01:09:24,469
footage and you see that it's him

1616
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:26,150
and he says you know I really I wish I

1617
01:09:28,780 --> 01:09:27,410
could have known you like you seemed

1618
01:09:31,539 --> 01:09:28,790
like a really good person or whatever he

1619
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:31,549
says and then oh my god like Scully and

1620
01:09:35,079 --> 01:09:33,290
Mulder like standing there and Mulder

1621
01:09:36,910 --> 01:09:35,089
has his hand on her shoulder and she's

1622
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:36,920
like crying and smiling at the same time

1623
01:09:41,229 --> 01:09:39,770
een it's just amazing yeah but it's just

1624
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:41,239
really interesting like he kind of

1625
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:43,310
brushes that whole monologue off but

1626
01:09:47,740 --> 01:09:46,130
then maybe maybe he did really hear it

1627
01:09:49,229 --> 01:09:47,750
and maybe he did feel something from it

1628
01:09:53,829 --> 01:09:49,239
and kind of see later in the episode

1629
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:53,839
yeah it's his power of like distorting

1630
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:56,000
people's perception I think we're gonna

1631
01:09:59,860 --> 01:09:57,530
see a lot more of what he's actually

1632
01:10:02,830 --> 01:09:59,870
capable of I feel in like probably the

1633
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:02,840
last episode maybe yeah he's coming back

1634
01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:10,250
edgar cayce in this one I think I'm

1635
01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:12,080
really feeling your mystical presence

1636
01:10:20,110 --> 01:10:14,270
here you know I'm holding a key in my

1637
01:10:22,180 --> 01:10:20,120
hand in two metal balls in the other but

1638
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:22,190
yeah I'm interested to see like what

1639
01:10:26,830 --> 01:10:24,530
other abilities he has but the fact that

1640
01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:26,840
like throughout the episode it's kind of

1641
01:10:31,870 --> 01:10:29,510
he's trying to learn more about his

1642
01:10:34,090 --> 01:10:31,880
mother not his father which I think is

1643
01:10:36,430 --> 01:10:34,100
pretty interesting and Mulder as well

1644
01:10:39,010 --> 01:10:36,440
just kind of seems like he wants nothing

1645
01:10:40,780 --> 01:10:39,020
to do with it and he noticed that I know

1646
01:10:43,390 --> 01:10:40,790
what I mean like he were hears about

1647
01:10:45,790 --> 01:10:43,400
Scully that's it and I love that like

1648
01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:45,800
they're soulmates he looks out for her

1649
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:48,800
first and foremost he always has but I

1650
01:10:52,860 --> 01:10:51,410
find it really excited you are about

1651
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:52,870
this right now

1652
01:10:58,890 --> 01:10:57,440
what's the S word you just used I think

1653
01:11:00,069 --> 01:10:58,900
he was talking about William but Scully

1654
01:11:03,390 --> 01:11:00,079
right

1655
01:11:04,990 --> 01:11:03,400
you talk about Mulder and Scully yeah

1656
01:11:06,250 --> 01:11:05,000
yeah I think you're talking about

1657
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:06,260
soulmates not in this sense of like

1658
01:11:10,930 --> 01:11:08,690
romantic but like you know some people

1659
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:10,940
think that like you know like their bond

1660
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:12,650
is deeper Scullion yeah

1661
01:11:15,970 --> 01:11:14,570
and Williams cuz they're you know mother

1662
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:15,980
and son well something that I found

1663
01:11:19,959 --> 01:11:17,840
interesting to kind of like on from

1664
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:19,969
another angle is that he because he

1665
01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:21,530
doesn't have any interaction really with

1666
01:11:26,260 --> 01:11:22,880
Mulder he only has interaction with

1667
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:26,270
Scully is that the writers or you know

1668
01:11:28,839 --> 01:11:28,610
Chris Carter or whoever trying to tell

1669
01:11:31,060 --> 01:11:28,849
us

1670
01:11:34,689 --> 01:11:31,070
suddenly that Mulder is not his father

1671
01:11:36,459 --> 01:11:34,699
right and I I remember reading in an

1672
01:11:37,930 --> 01:11:36,469
interview with James Wong that he didn't

1673
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:37,940
know about the cigarette smoking man

1674
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:40,610
thing when he wrote this episode okay

1675
01:11:44,140 --> 01:11:41,690
but that doesn't mean that things

1676
01:11:47,589 --> 01:11:44,150
weren't changed later right yes that's

1677
01:11:49,060 --> 01:11:47,599
that's very true but yeah also like if

1678
01:11:50,740 --> 01:11:49,070
he was Mulder's quote/unquote brother

1679
01:12:01,959 --> 01:11:50,750
like they might have somewhere yeah

1680
01:12:07,839 --> 01:12:01,969
that's a good point too yeah cuz that

1681
01:12:10,839 --> 01:12:07,849
just is so William B Davis we love you

1682
01:12:12,580 --> 01:12:10,849
but we love you amazing actor yeah if

1683
01:12:14,490 --> 01:12:12,590
you could just move fossa it for the

1684
01:12:17,260 --> 01:12:14,500
next couple of episodes that's great

1685
01:12:22,419 --> 01:12:17,270
comeback comeback in the cloud but don't

1686
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:22,429
really be around I almost like jumped

1687
01:12:27,069 --> 01:12:24,290
out of my seat when William was about to

1688
01:12:28,990 --> 01:12:27,079
get up and confront Mulder and Scully I

1689
01:12:34,270 --> 01:12:29,000
was like oh my god yes finally finally

1690
01:12:36,430 --> 01:12:34,280
finally no and it didn't happen oh god

1691
01:12:40,359 --> 01:12:36,440
that was such an amazing there were some

1692
01:12:41,979 --> 01:12:40,369
just some images and you know small

1693
01:12:43,839 --> 01:12:41,989
moments in this episode that I think

1694
01:12:47,379 --> 01:12:43,849
like are the pinnacle of the entire

1695
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:47,389
series like the monologue by Scully God

1696
01:12:52,770 --> 01:12:49,250
that last moment of seeing him on the

1697
01:12:55,930 --> 01:12:52,780
camera and like just that look of like

1698
01:12:57,970 --> 01:12:55,940
resolution and closure for Scully in

1699
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:57,980
some ways like it ain't over by a long

1700
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:00,800
shot but like Justin no he's still there

1701
01:13:05,290 --> 01:13:03,530
and that he reached out to her like god

1702
01:13:08,589 --> 01:13:05,300
I can't even imagine as a mother like

1703
01:13:10,450 --> 01:13:08,599
what that must have meant to her yeah at

1704
01:13:11,770 --> 01:13:10,460
the same time like Eve both times that I

1705
01:13:13,870 --> 01:13:11,780
watched this episode I got to the end of

1706
01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:13,880
the episode and I just was like weird

1707
01:13:18,580 --> 01:13:16,400
go from here like I felt kind of I felt

1708
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:18,590
hopeful but I also just felt kind of

1709
01:13:23,500 --> 01:13:21,650
like empty in a weird way I can't really

1710
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:23,510
describe it it was kind of like I just

1711
01:13:28,810 --> 01:13:26,480
don't know where we go from here

1712
01:13:33,250 --> 01:13:28,820
I think a big part of that at least

1713
01:13:34,990 --> 01:13:33,260
personally is that we're going to

1714
01:13:37,450 --> 01:13:35,000
inevitably end with a Chris Carter

1715
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:37,460
episode at least with this season yeah

1716
01:13:42,010 --> 01:13:39,110
god knows if it's ever gonna continue

1717
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:42,020
after that but like knowing impending

1718
01:13:46,450 --> 01:13:44,090
that we have to see my struggle for

1719
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:46,460
we're like oh maybe that's what I was

1720
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:47,840
feeling right there right know what I

1721
01:13:52,180 --> 01:13:50,090
mean just this emptiness of like we're

1722
01:13:53,860 --> 01:13:52,190
gonna get some sort of wrap up by Chris

1723
01:13:57,070 --> 01:13:53,870
Cartland and these my struggle episodes

1724
01:13:58,959 --> 01:13:57,080
don't go over well they never have so

1725
01:14:02,439 --> 01:13:58,969
it's like we're getting this beautiful

1726
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:02,449
writing by Wong and Morgan and we have

1727
01:14:07,149 --> 01:14:05,360
to end with the mythology and I don't

1728
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:07,159
know I did I know what you mean like

1729
01:14:12,550 --> 01:14:10,159
it's a beautiful episode but again it

1730
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:12,560
all seems a little rushed yes we get ten

1731
01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:14,449
episodes this time but I still feel like

1732
01:14:17,919 --> 01:14:16,159
that's not enough for the stakes that

1733
01:14:19,870 --> 01:14:17,929
they're trying to do at least it doesn't

1734
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:19,880
feel as rushed as he's intended he's not

1735
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:22,250
gonna was ridiculous but yeah you're

1736
01:14:25,899 --> 01:14:23,690
right it's still pretty rushed yeah

1737
01:14:27,879 --> 01:14:25,909
that's my part I mean it needs to be

1738
01:14:34,209 --> 01:14:27,889
that we would get 20 plus episodes in a

1739
01:14:40,959 --> 01:14:34,219
season drag it out from Crytek's arm to

1740
01:14:45,970 --> 01:14:40,969
finally follow really and then finally

1741
01:14:47,260 --> 01:14:45,980
he's got the fake I'm excited to see

1742
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:47,270
where this is all going to end up even

1743
01:14:50,910 --> 01:14:48,650
if we have to end with a Chris Carter

1744
01:14:52,810 --> 01:14:50,920
episode but it's still kind of like

1745
01:14:55,180 --> 01:14:52,820
what's gonna happen

1746
01:14:57,310 --> 01:14:55,190
well yeah cuz I'm scared at this point

1747
01:14:59,229 --> 01:14:57,320
we we know like the next one is an

1748
01:15:00,910 --> 01:14:59,239
origin story for Skinner but then we

1749
01:15:03,610 --> 01:15:00,920
know nothing about what's coming after

1750
01:15:06,820 --> 01:15:03,620
that so that's exciting yeah there's one

1751
01:15:09,250 --> 01:15:06,830
episode on IMDB that has a name it's

1752
01:15:11,500 --> 01:15:09,260
kitten which is the Skinner episode

1753
01:15:13,149 --> 01:15:11,510
mm-hmm which is episode 6 right so then

1754
01:15:14,260 --> 01:15:13,159
there's one more episode that we don't

1755
01:15:16,510 --> 01:15:14,270
know the name of and then I think it's

1756
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:16,520
an episode 8 is called

1757
01:15:21,790 --> 01:15:20,239
a shoot I'll have to look it up um I'm

1758
01:15:25,310 --> 01:15:21,800
just gonna look on IMDB real quick but

1759
01:15:27,740 --> 01:15:25,320
anyway so episode 8 has a title and

1760
01:15:31,610 --> 01:15:27,750
then nine and ten don't have titles yet

1761
01:15:33,650 --> 01:15:31,620
I think so let me see here yeah so

1762
01:15:36,740 --> 01:15:33,660
Episode eight is nothing lasts forever

1763
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:36,750
and there's a little picture here on

1764
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:38,970
IMDB and it's Mulder and Scully in front

1765
01:15:42,140 --> 01:15:41,730
of stained glass stained glass oh my

1766
01:15:45,590 --> 01:15:42,150
goodness

1767
01:15:48,890 --> 01:15:45,600
but Scully's hair is short ah well like

1768
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:48,900
it's cut to above her shoulders what is

1769
01:15:53,870 --> 01:15:52,410
she new or is it a weird flashback to

1770
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:53,880
something we never saw before

1771
01:15:59,180 --> 01:15:56,130
hey great but I mean how could they do

1772
01:16:01,850 --> 01:15:59,190
that I'm sorry Mulder looks aged sorry

1773
01:16:05,630 --> 01:16:01,860
David Duchovny well you know they can do

1774
01:16:08,540 --> 01:16:05,640
wonders with CGI these days that's very

1775
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:08,550
true and it is 2018 and not 1993 so they

1776
01:16:13,340 --> 01:16:09,840
might actually be able to do something

1777
01:16:15,140 --> 01:16:13,350
that looks halfway decent I mean if we

1778
01:16:16,970 --> 01:16:15,150
could put Carrie Fisher into a movie now

1779
01:16:20,110 --> 01:16:16,980
I think they can pretty much do anything

1780
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:20,120
and Disney owns Fox now so there you go

1781
01:16:25,460 --> 01:16:24,090
parts of Fox which is too bad because I

1782
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:25,470
kind of wanted them to take Fox News but

1783
01:16:30,380 --> 01:16:28,410
anyway her hair is really cut I think

1784
01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:30,390
that you I think she might just be at a

1785
01:16:35,180 --> 01:16:32,960
weird angle no because then I saw

1786
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:35,190
another picture of her where she and

1787
01:16:38,150 --> 01:16:36,930
David Duchovny are like sitting there

1788
01:16:39,980 --> 01:16:38,160
and they're being interviewed or

1789
01:16:41,900 --> 01:16:39,990
something and she has her hair it's like

1790
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:41,910
a short red haired wig nothing lasts

1791
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:43,010
forever

1792
01:16:52,490 --> 01:16:48,450
like her hair I hope this isn't like

1793
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:52,500
this equal to Milagro oh god which one

1794
01:16:57,050 --> 01:16:54,690
was that though a bird they she spent

1795
01:16:59,720 --> 01:16:57,060
the whole episode in the church yeah oh

1796
01:17:00,980 --> 01:16:59,730
yeah kind of looking forward to podcast

1797
01:17:02,090 --> 01:17:00,990
me that what though yeah it's good

1798
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:02,100
episode it's good actually

1799
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:04,410
oh yeah the guy who's in that episode

1800
01:17:08,270 --> 01:17:06,330
like grew up with a friend of mine I do

1801
01:17:11,780 --> 01:17:08,280
wonder like for you guys there must be

1802
01:17:13,940 --> 01:17:11,790
so many like small you know seven what

1803
01:17:18,230 --> 01:17:13,950
is it like things of separation living

1804
01:17:20,270 --> 01:17:18,240
in Vancouver like oh no the series were

1805
01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:20,280
shot there and a lot of the actors it's

1806
01:17:25,490 --> 01:17:23,040
so obvious there you know by their

1807
01:17:28,490 --> 01:17:25,500
accents where they're from I would

1808
01:17:30,140 --> 01:17:28,500
really like to get the girl who played

1809
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:30,150
one of the girls in this episode the

1810
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:31,770
blonde one shoot I'm forgetting her name

1811
01:17:35,480 --> 01:17:34,170
I think it might be Madeleine Albert or

1812
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:35,490
something like that mm-hmm

1813
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:36,930
and it would be so fun to get her on the

1814
01:17:42,530 --> 01:17:38,850
podcast I'll have to see if I can find

1815
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:42,540
agent or somebody yeah so I'm really

1816
01:17:47,660 --> 01:17:44,250
excited for the future there's one thing

1817
01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:47,670
we didn't talk about yet Bob oh what

1818
01:17:55,370 --> 01:17:51,510
about Bob say I wasn't gonna say that I

1819
01:17:57,860 --> 01:17:55,380
was gonna say the the project that yes

1820
01:18:00,830 --> 01:17:57,870
oh yeah you know I'm talking about

1821
01:18:02,330 --> 01:18:00,840
project crossroads crossroads have we

1822
01:18:10,220 --> 01:18:02,340
heard about project crossroads before in

1823
01:18:14,450 --> 01:18:10,230
the x-files I don't right we know that

1824
01:18:17,180 --> 01:18:14,460
Scully was abducted and that like like

1825
01:18:20,180 --> 01:18:17,190
apparently this is the project that made

1826
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:20,190
her and William have alien and human DNA

1827
01:18:23,570 --> 01:18:21,330
right ha

1828
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:23,580
thanks to smoking man yeah yeah that's

1829
01:18:27,140 --> 01:18:25,920
interesting cuz like it kinda came out

1830
01:18:29,390 --> 01:18:27,150
in nowhere and I thought it was

1831
01:18:31,730 --> 01:18:29,400
interesting that Skinner was the one to

1832
01:18:33,140 --> 01:18:31,740
tell molder about it like I don't know

1833
01:18:34,940 --> 01:18:33,150
what to make of Skinner yet and I think

1834
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:34,950
that's again the brilliance of the

1835
01:18:39,140 --> 01:18:37,170
writing of his character we never know

1836
01:18:41,060 --> 01:18:39,150
whether to trust him or not but the fact

1837
01:18:43,370 --> 01:18:41,070
that like he divulged project crossroads

1838
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:43,380
to Mulder in this episode it's pretty

1839
01:18:48,110 --> 01:18:45,810
interesting and it kind of came out of

1840
01:18:49,580 --> 01:18:48,120
left field to you know this this

1841
01:18:52,670 --> 01:18:49,590
eugenics project that they've been

1842
01:18:54,350 --> 01:18:52,680
working on for so long and you know and

1843
01:18:57,260 --> 01:18:54,360
then at the end of this episode which I

1844
01:19:00,890 --> 01:18:57,270
thought was weird is that supposedly

1845
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:00,900
Scully thought that the guy in charge of

1846
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:02,610
the project was the dude she was talking

1847
01:19:07,370 --> 01:19:04,770
to at the gas station oh my come on

1848
01:19:09,020 --> 01:19:07,380
Scully you know out of nowhere ask this

1849
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:09,030
guy at a gas station were you in charge

1850
01:19:13,610 --> 01:19:10,770
of this top-secret government project

1851
01:19:15,530 --> 01:19:13,620
like I know she's like are you dr. Matsu

1852
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:15,540
moto or whatever yeah no I didn't even

1853
01:19:18,890 --> 01:19:17,010
finish high school which by the way if

1854
01:19:20,990 --> 01:19:18,900
he if that's William which it is he

1855
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:21,000
hasn't finished high school exactly yeah

1856
01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:23,850
but yeah then if he's like oh yeah

1857
01:19:26,690 --> 01:19:25,020
that's me why do you ask

1858
01:19:28,820 --> 01:19:26,700
oh you're that doctor for a blahblah

1859
01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:28,830
like she keeps on seeing and she keeps

1860
01:19:32,810 --> 01:19:31,110
on seeing random places right well

1861
01:19:34,580 --> 01:19:32,820
that's another crazy thing about the

1862
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:34,590
fact that he makes himself look like

1863
01:19:38,540 --> 01:19:36,690
that pickup artist it's like okay he's

1864
01:19:40,730 --> 01:19:38,550
got a pickup artist book in his room

1865
01:19:44,660 --> 01:19:40,740
he's a player who has two girlfriends

1866
01:19:46,730 --> 01:19:44,670
come on William just come on like what

1867
01:19:49,460 --> 01:19:46,740
kind of a player are you what kind of an

1868
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:49,470
adult are you going to be I just laughs

1869
01:19:54,470 --> 01:19:52,320
yeah I don't I just don't see a

1870
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:54,480
good future for William at all I don't

1871
01:20:01,010 --> 01:19:56,730
see their this can't end happy

1872
01:20:03,250 --> 01:20:01,020
it can't either his real dad's not the

1873
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:03,260
circus monkey man it's Morris Fletcher

1874
01:20:15,649 --> 01:20:14,250
no oh less Lebanese I thought no what

1875
01:20:16,669 --> 01:20:15,659
does he say Oh lesbian I thought you

1876
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:16,679
said Lebanese or maybe it's the other

1877
01:20:20,899 --> 01:20:18,770
way around in the Lone Gunmen yeah

1878
01:20:22,490 --> 01:20:20,909
Lebanese I thought you said lesbian I

1879
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:22,500
don't remember what it was

1880
01:20:28,459 --> 01:20:25,650
so yeah so dr. Matsumoto he burned all

1881
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:28,469
the files to protect the subjects and

1882
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:29,520
then he disappeared and everyone's

1883
01:20:32,959 --> 01:20:31,290
trying to track them down what episode

1884
01:20:34,970 --> 01:20:32,969
was that was that did they talk about

1885
01:20:38,089 --> 01:20:34,980
this and that in this episode or did

1886
01:20:39,740 --> 01:20:38,099
that happen in the past maybe they did

1887
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:39,750
yeah yeah I think that's what kind of

1888
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:41,250
what Skinner was getting at with molder

1889
01:20:45,319 --> 01:20:43,290
yeah okay but we haven't seen that

1890
01:20:46,879 --> 01:20:45,329
happen in the past no it's it's really

1891
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:46,889
crazy because I'm watching this like as

1892
01:20:50,810 --> 01:20:49,050
an audience member and going you know

1893
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:50,820
okay I thought we always knew that

1894
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:54,000
Scully had alien DNA and whatever I

1895
01:20:57,229 --> 01:20:55,440
thought we always knew some things about

1896
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:57,239
William but I'm forgetting which

1897
01:21:01,459 --> 01:20:59,280
characters know what about the story

1898
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:01,469
right and I think that's where this show

1899
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:02,880
is always kind of suffered it's like

1900
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:05,610
there's so much convoluted things that

1901
01:21:10,399 --> 01:21:08,010
we we forget about because it's spoken

1902
01:21:13,220 --> 01:21:10,409
of in like one line and never again plus

1903
01:21:15,470 --> 01:21:13,230
it was like 17 years ago and when the

1904
01:21:20,169 --> 01:21:15,480
show ended yeah everything that we

1905
01:21:22,550 --> 01:21:20,179
learned on season 8 9 nobody remembers

1906
01:21:23,629 --> 01:21:22,560
it's it's just really hard to keep it

1907
01:21:24,770 --> 01:21:23,639
all straight and that's something we've

1908
01:21:26,540 --> 01:21:24,780
been saying since we even started this

1909
01:21:27,890 --> 01:21:26,550
podcast and when Amanda was on the

1910
01:21:29,810 --> 01:21:27,900
podcast with us she was like I don't

1911
01:21:30,290 --> 01:21:29,820
know what's going on poor Amanda poor

1912
01:21:32,060 --> 01:21:30,300
Amanda

1913
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:32,070
we're like don't ask questions we have

1914
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:35,520
the benefit of hindsight man yep this is

1915
01:21:40,459 --> 01:21:38,610
a crazy episode yeah I you know overall

1916
01:21:42,770 --> 01:21:40,469
I loved it just to get that out there

1917
01:21:45,260 --> 01:21:42,780
like I thought it was really good

1918
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:45,270
writing it it was a great character

1919
01:21:50,660 --> 01:21:49,050
exploration for Scully and you know I I

1920
01:21:53,169 --> 01:21:50,670
look forward to seeing what happens with

1921
01:21:55,879 --> 01:21:53,179
William totally agree 100%

1922
01:21:58,399 --> 01:21:55,889
there's good stuff on the horizon yeah

1923
01:22:00,109 --> 01:21:58,409
definitely well I don't know cuz like I

1924
01:22:02,810 --> 01:22:00,119
don't know if William is gonna have a

1925
01:22:04,580 --> 01:22:02,820
good ending I hope so but I don't know

1926
01:22:06,270 --> 01:22:04,590
if he will there's like this instinct in

1927
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:06,280
me going what at the x-file

1928
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:08,290
goes on to season 12 and they just

1929
01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:10,330
follow William around or what if William

1930
01:22:16,530 --> 01:22:12,790
and Gibson actually were friends like

1931
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:16,540
you've talked about oh my god someone

1932
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:17,650
they need to bring back

1933
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:19,330
you should have Jeff coca and you're on

1934
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:22,210
your podcast he's fun yeah really yeah

1935
01:22:26,670 --> 01:22:24,250
so much fun yeah hopefully we'll have

1936
01:22:30,620 --> 01:22:26,680
him on again sometime cool how old is he

1937
01:22:33,780 --> 01:22:30,630
now uh he's our age okay yeah he's about

1938
01:22:35,370 --> 01:22:33,790
he's in his 30s is we like talk to him

1939
01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:35,380
like before is thirty like the day

1940
01:22:38,430 --> 01:22:37,150
before is there oh yeah that's right I'm

1941
01:22:42,990 --> 01:22:38,440
going up for my birthday right

1942
01:22:45,780 --> 01:22:43,000
ah bed sauce he's super approachable and

1943
01:22:48,030 --> 01:22:45,790
early nice cool anyway okay so we've

1944
01:22:50,700 --> 01:22:48,040
been going on for quite a while I think

1945
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:50,710
I think everything that I wanted to say

1946
01:22:58,020 --> 01:22:52,090
I've said except for Bob we haven't

1947
01:23:00,900 --> 01:22:58,030
realized so Bob is the name of a certain

1948
01:23:06,170 --> 01:23:00,910
part of Mulder's anatomy that the fandom

1949
01:23:11,460 --> 01:23:08,460
I'm a late bloomer to the x-files

1950
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:11,470
internet fandom so I had no idea about

1951
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:14,730
this until Lindsay our friend told me

1952
01:23:22,740 --> 01:23:20,290
okay Wow I see i thought bob was that

1953
01:23:25,230 --> 01:23:22,750
weird dude that keeps popping up in the

1954
01:23:30,450 --> 01:23:25,240
background of every episode you know

1955
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:30,460
like that photo of the guy in the lake

1956
01:23:34,530 --> 01:23:32,290
that shows up in the Lone Gunmen picture

1957
01:23:36,570 --> 01:23:34,540
and like secretly or whatever like that

1958
01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:36,580
sort of Easter Egg yeah yeah right but

1959
01:23:42,780 --> 01:23:38,710
no now I'm learning right now that it's

1960
01:23:44,340 --> 01:23:42,790
actually Mulder's package awesome okay

1961
01:23:46,050 --> 01:23:44,350
then I do have to say like you were

1962
01:23:47,460 --> 01:23:46,060
saying earlier Ryan that this is

1963
01:23:49,140 --> 01:23:47,470
basically a love letter to the fans this

1964
01:23:50,670 --> 01:23:49,150
whole season so far and that's another

1965
01:23:52,470 --> 01:23:50,680
thing where they took something from the

1966
01:23:55,380 --> 01:23:52,480
fandom and they were like we got to put

1967
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:55,390
this in here and then there was the

1968
01:23:58,860 --> 01:23:56,890
fajitas thing when they were in the

1969
01:24:01,740 --> 01:23:58,870
diner which is a you know

1970
01:24:10,890 --> 01:24:01,750
reference to a fanfic that apparently is

1971
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:10,900
very racy mylanta just get the smelling

1972
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:13,690
salts in the fans yeah sure the fan of

1973
01:24:18,830 --> 01:24:14,970
that just keeps on giving

1974
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:18,840
yeah very generous I know and and

1975
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:20,850
the x-files creators are like huh we

1976
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:22,110
could do something with that thanks for

1977
01:24:25,820 --> 01:24:24,570
doing our work for us yeah I'm sure you

1978
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:25,830
guys have talked about this too you like

1979
01:24:30,110 --> 01:24:28,170
the fact that in was a my struggle at

1980
01:24:32,660 --> 01:24:30,120
the beginning of this season you know

1981
01:24:34,580 --> 01:24:32,670
that voice going backwards was actually

1982
01:24:37,370 --> 01:24:34,590
Chris Carter's like saying thank you to

1983
01:24:40,670 --> 01:24:37,380
all the fans and everything I Homer that

1984
01:24:42,170 --> 01:24:40,680
it might have been Jillian because it's

1985
01:24:45,050 --> 01:24:42,180
hard to tell if you listen to it it's

1986
01:24:46,850 --> 01:24:45,060
obviously been kind of auto-tuned or

1987
01:24:49,790 --> 01:24:46,860
whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's

1988
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:49,800
backwards so but yeah it's just it is

1989
01:24:53,180 --> 01:24:51,690
like a little yeah

1990
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:53,190
something out there for the fans totally

1991
01:24:59,210 --> 01:24:57,530
I love it yeah yeah we love it too I

1992
01:25:01,430 --> 01:24:59,220
don't think I've had this much fun

1993
01:25:08,510 --> 01:25:01,440
podcasting a long time Ryan thank you so

1994
01:25:11,180 --> 01:25:08,520
much for staring at Vanessa and plus all

1995
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:11,190
of our lovely guests we've had on yeah

1996
01:25:16,940 --> 01:25:14,130
no this has been awesome like I like I

1997
01:25:19,940 --> 01:25:16,950
said I talked UFOs every single week but

1998
01:25:22,580 --> 01:25:19,950
then to talk about the show that kept me

1999
01:25:25,610 --> 01:25:22,590
going and searching for the actual truth

2000
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:25,620
that's out there like I I love it and to

2001
01:25:29,900 --> 01:25:27,330
find people as passionate as I am about

2002
01:25:33,740 --> 01:25:29,910
the x-files that's something I hold very

2003
01:25:37,010 --> 01:25:33,750
dear to my heart the the x ph files were

2004
01:25:39,740 --> 01:25:37,020
still out there were alive and weekly we

2005
01:25:43,190 --> 01:25:39,750
will follow this show you know till the

2006
01:25:45,020 --> 01:25:43,200
very bitter end and it was such a

2007
01:25:47,450 --> 01:25:45,030
pleasure and honor to do this with you

2008
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:47,460
guys yeah it was awesome having you on

2009
01:25:52,340 --> 01:25:49,650
as well like in our little crossover

2010
01:25:53,930 --> 01:25:52,350
here just out of curiosity because like

2011
01:25:55,550 --> 01:25:53,940
there are other x-files podcasts out

2012
01:25:59,270 --> 01:25:55,560
there what other x-files podcasts do you

2013
01:26:01,340 --> 01:25:59,280
like yes so I I I was pretty late to the

2014
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,350
podcasting game until I started my own

2015
01:26:06,140 --> 01:26:03,600
so I started you know seeing what else

2016
01:26:15,050 --> 01:26:06,150
yeah yeah I didn't start this podcast

2017
01:26:18,860 --> 01:26:15,060
let's be fair yes what else do I listen

2018
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:18,870
to Kumail Nanjiani obviously love love

2019
01:26:23,300 --> 01:26:21,360
that one I wish he was still doing it it

2020
01:26:27,890 --> 01:26:23,310
kind of just fell off I don't think he

2021
01:26:29,870 --> 01:26:27,900
has time yeah yeah it all right get all

2022
01:26:32,669 --> 01:26:29,880
big and everything on us whatever I

2023
01:26:35,399 --> 01:26:32,679
don't know he seems like an awesome day

2024
01:26:37,020 --> 01:26:35,409
no doubt to the big sick so the big sick

2025
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:37,030
Oh God incredible

2026
01:26:43,109 --> 01:26:39,449
I listen to the ex cast obviously a

2027
01:26:45,199 --> 01:26:43,119
amazing community of exponents yes

2028
01:26:48,660 --> 01:26:45,209
and you guys I think that's it if you

2029
01:26:52,140 --> 01:26:48,670
Rex on what I should be listening to to

2030
01:26:54,540 --> 01:26:52,150
continue my obsession do I have one you

2031
01:26:56,819 --> 01:26:54,550
should listen to Jin and topics okay

2032
01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:56,829
they're a relatively new podcast they're

2033
01:27:01,410 --> 01:26:59,199
two lovely women who are have been

2034
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:01,420
x-files fans also forever and they're

2035
01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:04,090
really like good at reading sort of the

2036
01:27:09,719 --> 01:27:06,880
text of the episodes and really getting

2037
01:27:11,310 --> 01:27:09,729
into like the the how do I want to say

2038
01:27:14,069 --> 01:27:11,320
this like the literary kind of aspect of

2039
01:27:15,719 --> 01:27:14,079
it um they're very like they critique

2040
01:27:17,279 --> 01:27:15,729
really really well and I just find them

2041
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:17,289
really awesome so anybody like you

2042
01:27:21,060 --> 01:27:18,489
should all go check them out they're so

2043
01:27:23,250 --> 01:27:21,070
good see that's great I love hearing

2044
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:23,260
like that people are looking at this

2045
01:27:27,810 --> 01:27:25,090
from all different all different ways

2046
01:27:31,290 --> 01:27:27,820
you know I mean I've always sort of seen

2047
01:27:32,899 --> 01:27:31,300
like the x-files as bigger than the show

2048
01:27:35,459 --> 01:27:32,909
ever could be you know you could take

2049
01:27:42,029 --> 01:27:35,469
crypto feminism stance on it you could

2050
01:27:43,649 --> 01:27:42,039
say like like I do like absolutely you

2051
01:27:45,989 --> 01:27:43,659
know you could look at it like I do of

2052
01:27:49,589 --> 01:27:45,999
like the history and mythology behind

2053
01:27:51,839 --> 01:27:49,599
UFOs you know and believers and that

2054
01:27:53,489 --> 01:27:51,849
sort of subculture so there's so many

2055
01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:53,499
different ways to look at this show and

2056
01:27:57,629 --> 01:27:55,209
I think that's the brilliance of it and

2057
01:27:59,250 --> 01:27:57,639
you know no matter people's thoughts on

2058
01:28:01,799 --> 01:27:59,260
how Chris Carter treats his winning in

2059
01:28:06,209 --> 01:28:01,809
his episode sometimes don't get me

2060
01:28:07,890 --> 01:28:06,219
started I think he has you know he just

2061
01:28:09,689 --> 01:28:07,900
wants everyone to be happy

2062
01:28:12,299 --> 01:28:09,699
he I don't think he ever envisioned

2063
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:12,309
x-files being this big she's kind of

2064
01:28:16,859 --> 01:28:14,320
like George Lucas in Star Wars so like

2065
01:28:19,919 --> 01:28:16,869
you will never please everyone but he

2066
01:28:21,779 --> 01:28:19,929
his hardest and just the fact that we

2067
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:21,789
get to see these characters again like

2068
01:28:28,770 --> 01:28:26,170
take my money I will keep I might be a

2069
01:28:32,399 --> 01:28:28,780
little over in over his head sometimes

2070
01:28:34,679 --> 01:28:32,409
although that's why he has his team you

2071
01:28:37,489 --> 01:28:34,689
know James Wong's of the world and the

2072
01:28:41,069 --> 01:28:37,499
Darin and Glenn Morgan's of the world

2073
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:41,079
yes Gilligan's the Vince Gilligan's

2074
01:28:44,699 --> 01:28:42,489
absolutely I wish he'd come back but

2075
01:28:46,350 --> 01:28:44,709
it's you know take what we can get and

2076
01:28:48,570 --> 01:28:46,360
please get us some more female right

2077
01:28:49,979 --> 01:28:48,580
please oh well yeah there is at least

2078
01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:49,989
one episode coming up that has a female

2079
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:52,000
writing team okay so that's awesome yeah

2080
01:28:56,700 --> 01:28:54,250
we're headed in the right direction I

2081
01:29:00,510 --> 01:28:56,710
think so yeah I know

2082
01:29:04,379 --> 01:29:00,520
ears new to this crossover Ryan would

2083
01:29:05,790 --> 01:29:04,389
you like to rate with us yeah what okay

2084
01:29:07,859 --> 01:29:05,800
yeah let's do it

2085
01:29:09,689 --> 01:29:07,869
we've kind of we were like being

2086
01:29:11,700 --> 01:29:09,699
ridiculous with our ratings earlier in

2087
01:29:14,669 --> 01:29:11,710
the season but we could just do it out

2088
01:29:16,649 --> 01:29:14,679
of ten if you'd like okay I mean what do

2089
01:29:18,270 --> 01:29:16,659
you want us to go first sure yeah yeah

2090
01:29:18,540 --> 01:29:18,280
I'll take your lead okay you want to go

2091
01:29:21,359 --> 01:29:18,550
first

2092
01:29:22,859 --> 01:29:21,369
I don't but now that you mean now you're

2093
01:29:25,770 --> 01:29:22,869
putting you on the spot I can try to go

2094
01:29:27,689 --> 01:29:25,780
for a pressure zone you know I actually

2095
01:29:31,020 --> 01:29:27,699
really liked this episode for a lot of

2096
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:31,030
reasons which we talked about let's talk

2097
01:29:38,399 --> 01:29:36,210
about the board three hour episode

2098
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:38,409
exactly that is the thing on some

2099
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:41,110
podcast so long I think I'm gonna give

2100
01:29:44,250 --> 01:29:43,090
this one a seven and a half okay it's a

2101
01:29:46,350 --> 01:29:44,260
pretty high waiting for me

2102
01:29:51,149 --> 01:29:46,360
yeah that's pretty good i seven and a

2103
01:29:54,510 --> 01:29:51,159
half out of ten Greek mythology named

2104
01:29:57,270 --> 01:29:54,520
seafaring vessels Wow okay if we were

2105
01:30:02,609 --> 01:29:57,280
still doing the veloute would get the

2106
01:30:07,220 --> 01:30:02,619
veloute I didn't go for hand-holding I'm

2107
01:30:12,330 --> 01:30:11,520
my bread and butter right all right

2108
01:30:14,850 --> 01:30:12,340
who's next

2109
01:30:17,310 --> 01:30:14,860
should I go next go ahead Carolyn's

2110
01:30:18,930 --> 01:30:17,320
looking at me like expectantly all right

2111
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:18,940
I'm gonna actually give it an 8 out of

2112
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10 Wow they also very much enjoyed this

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episode I'm going to give it an 8 out of

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01:30:29,609 --> 01:30:26,530
10 I'm gonna give it eight pick up

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01:30:31,229 --> 01:30:29,619
artists books out of 10 oh you mean the

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pickup artist books written by someone

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01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:33,760
named Peter Wong oh is that what the

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01:30:40,729 --> 01:30:37,270
name was on there just maybe he's one of

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01:30:42,870 --> 01:30:40,739
James family members hilarious

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01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:42,880
amazing those pickup artist books are

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01:30:49,050 --> 01:30:47,050
hilarious yeah so good good oh let's see

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01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:49,060
you know what I think I'm gonna go with

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01:30:57,170 --> 01:30:55,330
an 8.5 oh the highest rating increments

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of 5 this time

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01:31:02,690 --> 01:30:58,830
yeah and I'm giving the point five

2126
01:31:05,060 --> 01:31:02,700
merely for Scully's monologue and the

2127
01:31:07,790 --> 01:31:05,070
last moment where Mulder puts his hand

2128
01:31:10,700 --> 01:31:07,800
on her shoulder I just like I melted

2129
01:31:14,210 --> 01:31:10,710
inside just seeing that you're the one

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01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:14,220
giving the shippi rating apparently I'm

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01:31:25,490 --> 01:31:19,290
a shipper I just did this baby shipper

2132
01:31:27,020 --> 01:31:25,500
here I'm so proud growing up so eight

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01:31:32,660 --> 01:31:27,030
out of ten or eight and a half out of

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01:31:37,540 --> 01:31:32,670
ten what's 8 out of 10 8 out of 10 snow

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globes broken or not broken no hole

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01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:39,900
what's broken in half but the other ones

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01:31:46,190 --> 01:31:43,170
are hole eight and a half exactly that

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01:31:49,550 --> 01:31:46,200
was very good yeah fast thinking I'll go

2139
01:31:52,700 --> 01:31:49,560
with that yeah well since we're wrapping

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01:31:56,150 --> 01:31:52,710
up let's talk about where we can find

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01:31:58,970 --> 01:31:56,160
where our listeners for both of these

2142
01:31:59,720 --> 01:31:58,980
podcasts can find all of us if you are

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01:32:02,870 --> 01:31:59,730
so inclined

2144
01:32:06,410 --> 01:32:02,880
yes yeah absolutely I all of my work the

2145
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:06,420
podcast I write articles I work for a

2146
01:32:13,340 --> 01:32:08,130
few websites writing articles all about

2147
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:13,350
UFOs and that could all be found at

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01:32:18,980 --> 01:32:17,130
somewhere in the skies calm and you know

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01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:18,990
podcasts all over iTunes stitcher

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01:32:23,900 --> 01:32:22,050
Spotify what-have-you so that's me guys

2151
01:32:25,700 --> 01:32:23,910
how about you very cool

2152
01:32:29,330 --> 01:32:25,710
you're can I just say your website is

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01:32:31,820 --> 01:32:29,340
gorgeous it's a great website it is yeah

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01:32:35,780 --> 01:32:31,830
like it's so I love it so he didn't have

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01:32:39,440 --> 01:32:35,790
gayness I can't remember for exports

2156
01:32:41,210 --> 01:32:39,450
more fake we believe for that not a

2157
01:32:44,570 --> 01:32:41,220
sponsor of this podcast but shout out

2158
01:32:46,370 --> 01:32:44,580
anyway yeah well if you're interested in

2159
01:32:48,650 --> 01:32:46,380
Vanessa and my podcasts not another

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01:32:52,220 --> 01:32:48,660
exposed podcast podcast you can find us

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01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:52,230
at not another XF pod on everything most

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01:33:01,250 --> 01:32:56,690
of the things gmail.com tumblr twitter

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01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:01,260
facebook.com yeah and also on patreon do

2164
01:33:09,470 --> 01:33:03,570
you have a patreon Brian I do oh my gosh

2165
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:09,480
thank you yeah yeah seriously for like

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01:33:14,650 --> 01:33:11,090
just like you guys you know if you

2167
01:33:17,500 --> 01:33:14,660
bonus content episodes one-on-one Skype

2168
01:33:19,890 --> 01:33:17,510
sessions I got a ton of merch that got

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away my patreon is at patreon.com

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backslash somewhere skies and I'm like

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01:33:31,300 --> 01:33:25,730
25 people now which is more than I ever

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01:33:33,810 --> 01:33:31,310
envisioned so awesome awesome and thank

2173
01:33:36,820 --> 01:33:33,820
you it's been amazing the support system

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within the UFO community and beyond it's

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01:33:41,020 --> 01:33:39,380
been incredible but I am going to become

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01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:41,030
a patreon of you guys very soon because

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01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:45,010
I want to hear what else saying that

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01:33:51,490 --> 01:33:47,930
that was a very nice segue you can find

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01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:51,500
us on patreon.com slash not another XF

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01:33:57,820 --> 01:33:55,010
pod and patreon is spelled patr yo n

2181
01:33:59,920 --> 01:33:57,830
like patron woody I just always spell it

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01:34:04,660 --> 01:33:59,930
out cuz people are like how do you what

2183
01:34:06,130 --> 01:34:04,670
is that word yeah yeah I mean I think

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01:34:08,110 --> 01:34:06,140
it's important that people know like we

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01:34:10,630 --> 01:34:08,120
do this for the love and passion we have

2186
01:34:12,130 --> 01:34:10,640
for these topics and it you know it's

2187
01:34:17,770 --> 01:34:12,140
free to consume but it's not always free

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01:34:19,570 --> 01:34:17,780
to create so very true by the way I have

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01:34:22,450 --> 01:34:19,580
actually some exciting news so if you

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01:34:25,450 --> 01:34:22,460
listeners are ever wanting to start a

2191
01:34:30,580 --> 01:34:25,460
podcast I have a Lipson affiliate link

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01:34:31,750 --> 01:34:30,590
now oh yeah so basically go to oh shoot

2193
01:34:34,380 --> 01:34:31,760
I should look this up I'm pretty sure

2194
01:34:36,460 --> 01:34:34,390
it's Lipson calm and the promo code is

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01:34:38,740 --> 01:34:36,470
Vanessa awesome

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yeah cuz things are like all the other

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01:34:42,730 --> 01:34:40,880
ideas I had they didn't think they

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01:34:44,290 --> 01:34:42,740
already existed so I'm like can I just

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do my first name they're like sure I'm

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01:34:53,290 --> 01:34:49,940
like really there's no Vanessa there's

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01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:53,300
only this Vanessa so if I have that link

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01:34:59,050 --> 01:34:56,210
wrong I will put it in the show notes

2203
01:35:00,250 --> 01:34:59,060
perfect yeah well it's been real it has

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01:35:02,830 --> 01:35:00,260
been real Wow

2205
01:35:05,170 --> 01:35:02,840
this has been great guys this navigate

2206
01:35:07,630 --> 01:35:05,180
through this episode you know I I I

2207
01:35:08,629 --> 01:35:07,640
loved it I loved it I can't wait to see

2208
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:08,639
where we're headed

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same here